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Old 06-03-2019, 11:52 PM
 
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But wait...Fred and Betty Flintstone had Dino as a pet.
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Old 06-03-2019, 11:55 PM
 
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No. Some Christians may believe that, but nothing in Christianity specifically teaches that.

There IS a band of Appalachianians however that believe Jesus really did say, "And in my name...they shall take up serpents and if they drink any deadly poison it shall not harm them" despite the fact that we now know this was added to the gospel of Mark centuries after the gospel was written" Needless to say many hundreds of snake handlers and poison drinkers have died horribly painful deaths from snakebites and poisoning over the centuries.
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Old 06-04-2019, 09:29 PM
 
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RESPONSE: Not "weird" at all. They were large and had one head and four legs. "Weird" is in the eye of the beholder!
I guess everyone has a different opinion on what is 'weird or bizarre'!


I just think its strange to ponder, the God of the bible... his very first inclination to create living and breathing 'entities'...DINOSAURS is what he came up with???!!! LOL Whose or what image were they created in?



From what we are told of God and his nature in the OT bible, he is a god who likes to be worshiped and acknowledged as being the 1 true God, he is also a jealous God.


Creating dinosaurs on his first attempt doesnt make much sense imo, they did not have the capacity to worship or even acknowledge him, and to consider further, they existed for MILLIONS of years, (humans are just a blip on the time line compared to the dinos rule).
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Old 06-05-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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I guess everyone has a different opinion on what is 'weird or bizarre'!


I just think its strange to ponder, the God of the bible... his very first inclination to create living and breathing 'entities'...DINOSAURS is what he came up with???!!! LOL Whose or what image were they created in?



From what we are told of God and his nature in the OT bible, he is a god who likes to be worshiped and acknowledged as being the 1 true God, he is also a jealous God.


Creating dinosaurs on his first attempt doesnt make much sense imo, they did not have the capacity to worship or even acknowledge him, and to consider further, they existed for MILLIONS of years, (humans are just a blip on the time line compared to the dinos rule).
Rstevens, dinosaurs were not the first lifeforms on earth by a long shot. They first appeared roughly 240 million years ago during the Triassic period and evolved from earlier reptiles which pre-existed the dinosaurs, They were not ''God's first ''attempt''.'' At present, the best estimate is that life first appeared on earth around 3.8 billion years ago. The earth itself is calculated to be 4.54 billion years old. We have fossils of single celled organisms dating back to 3.5 billion years.

For a timeline of the evolution of life, refer to the article in the link below.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...ution-of-life/
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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Good answer Mike555, but it should also be noted that varying descriptions of God in the Old Testament must be taken with a grain of salt.
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Old 06-05-2019, 10:18 AM
 
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Ive heard a few that believe the flood made the dinosaur fossils much older than the supposed 5000+ years old they would have been after the flood SMH.
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Old 06-05-2019, 10:26 AM
 
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Good answer Mike555, but it should also be noted that varying descriptions of God in the Old Testament must be taken with a grain of salt.
Can you expand on that statement and give an example of what you mean?
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Old 06-05-2019, 10:28 AM
 
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Ive heard a few that believe the flood made the dinosaur fossils much older than the supposed 5000+ years old they would have been after the flood SMH.
Do you yourself personally believe that there was a global flood?
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Old 06-05-2019, 10:35 AM
 
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Do you yourself personally believe that there was a global flood?

The flood is something ive never really went into detail researching. We all grew up in church hearing about Noah and the Flood, and Ive seen people present on why they believe one happened and gave examples of some things on Mt Everest and other parts of the world, but havent really looked into anything presented agaisnt it, to really draw a conclusion on whether it was regional, global or none at all.




But if if was no flood at all, why should I believe anything else the bible has to say, if it is going to go into great detail about a man building a ark for hundreds of years before this flood and God wiping out the earth, and it was all a lie.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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The flood is something ive never really went into detail researching. We all grew up in church hearing about Noah and the Flood, and Ive seen people present on why they believe one happened and gave examples of some things on Mt Everest and other parts of the world, but havent really looked into anything presented agaisnt it, to really draw a conclusion on whether it was regional, global or none at all.




But if if was no flood at all, why should I believe anything else the bible has to say, if it is going to go into great detail about a man building a ark for hundreds of years before this flood and God wiping out the earth, and it was all a lie.
The flood stories of the ancient Near East, including the Biblical account are almost certainly based on an actual historical flood of some sort, but not a global flood. The Black Sea flood would be a possible source on which the flood stories are based.

The flood story in Genesis is not a lie, but is a polemic against the flood stories of Israel's neighbors and the reasons given in those flood stories for the flood. The Biblical writers, writing to Israel, attacked the gods and the theological beliefs of the Canaanites, the Egyptians (the Egyptians didn't have a flood story if I remember correctly), and the Mesopotamians in order to give the credit to Yahwah and take the credit away from gods of the nations.

Genesis was written, not to provide a scientifically correct cosmology, but was written for theological purposes within the framework of the ANE worldview. Genesis isn't concerned with whether there actually was an historical global flood. The story wasn't intended to be read literally. The writer of Genesis and the people to whom Genesis was first written knew about the other ANE flood stories and he wanted to 'correct' their theology. For example, in the Sumerian flood story of the epic of Gilgamesh the gods send the flood to destroy mankind because they were making so much noise that the gods couldn't sleep. In the Genesis flood story, a more acceptable reason for the flood is given. Mankind is so evil that God has to cleanse the earth of the evil and start over with Noah and his family. Whether or not there actually was a global flood (there wasn't) isn't the issue. The issue for the writer of Genesis was to reacquaint the Hebrews, who had been influenced by other gods during their time in Egypt, with Yahweh. Their theology needed to be readjusted.

Not everything is to be taken literally and historically although many things are literal and historical. But the creation and flood stories are not. They are theological. Not historical. And God wan't concerned with correcting the cosmology of the Hebrews and giving them a scientifically correct understanding of the cosmos. God could communicate what was theologically important while doing so within the framework of the cosmology that the Hebrews believed, as incorrect as it was.

In order for Genesis to be properly understood, it absolutely must be understood within the framework, within the culture of the ancient Near East. How the original readers of Genesis would have understood it is the issue that must be kept in mind. We cannot impose a twenty-first century cosmology on an ancient culture who believed that the earth was flat, supported by pillars, and had a hard dome firmament covering it.

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