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Old 06-10-2019, 03:25 AM
 
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It was King Nahash, who was the father of David's two half sisters and half brother, who were born to David's mother before she united with Jesse and bore David.

https://biblehub.com/text/2_samuel/17-25.htm
Not according to 17:25...
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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It was King Nahash, who was the father of David's two half sisters and half brother, who were born to David's mother before she united with Jesse and bore David.

https://biblehub.com/text/2_samuel/17-25.htm
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I am yet to come to a final conclusion as it is a work in process.
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Not according to 17:25...
That puzzled me as well? But he might be saying that Shobi is David's half-brother and the half-brother of Abigail?
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Old 06-10-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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That puzzled me as well? But he might be saying that Shobi is David's half-brother and the half-brother of Abigail?
Abigail was David’s mother...
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Old 06-10-2019, 02:29 PM
 
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That puzzled me as well? But he might be saying that Shobi is David's half-brother and the half-brother of Abigail?
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Abigail was David’s mother...
1 Chronicles 2:13-16
Jesse begot Eliab his firstborn, Abinadab the second, Shimea (Shammah) the third, Nethanel the fourth, Raddai the fifth, Ozem the sixth, and David the seventh. Now their sisters were Zeruiah and Abigail (half-sister).

Abigail and Zeruiah are referred to as David's sisters.
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Old 06-10-2019, 03:50 PM
 
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Abigail was David’s mother...
Abigail the half sister to David, was the mother of Amasa, while her sister Zeruiah was the mother of Joab, David's nephews.

Joab was later to treacherously killed his cousin Amasa.

And the members of the Jewish faith, say that we as Christians cannot understand their Tanahk.

Shobi, the son of Nahash and full brother to Abigail and Zeruiah the daughters of Nahash, were the children of David's mother.

Thread completed. Bye, bye.

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Old 06-10-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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I also believe that Jesse was Jesus real name given to him by David. Jesus being the greek version of the name Jesse.
But if it is not Not , That is the name I will put on these child/ren birth certificates.and the trust /estate record that I think will be established for the miracle babies .
Jesse ??. (so far ).??.. Davidson.

and he will be able to be confirmed by a dna test to match the children in that trust matching MY Mtdna ( from paint clan ) from my female family and a male clan line.. thus . who came from Heaven first before him.. .
and we will dna test these miracles I am carrying ( child and possible twins or trips) I know of two sons and two daughters plus how many I am caring ) to compare DNA with one another and other male lines around the world claiming king David Linages . to Confirm King David lineage and King David first sons lineage.
this Should be coming when I get some funds.
I know my dad's line is I think G tracing to most likely Zerubbabel's line AND the name Jesse and Ransom came down that family line. but the location of where those lines have traveled to and also through different places .. may be able to alter even male line genetics.. thus a path of where the lines traveled to, from, and through.. of King David and Israel in general.. and where they went in the world may become traceable on a true genetic time clock..
so A DNA test will have to be used to confirm that "son of the Father "and the true grandson of Jesse the one Greater than Solomon.....older in age and greater in all other ways. having mtdna that matches ancient royal Carthage and other royal Pheoncians around the world mtdnas. Thus proving him an Attalus / ancient Atlas by clan law and blood rights .
because the real Son of God ...
is in the process right now sending his own kids and his clan kids .. ahead of him to be able to prove who he is. Now that will be some real proof. even better maybe than eye witnesses .. because it will cause scientism to rethink their Ignor-ant "beliefs" about timelines and dna concepts.
as only the Son of the Father who has the keys of creation and power over life and death and hell .. could do that right?
oh heck and only the son of God could even be more than one man at a time .
The he the one and only real shapeshifter himself! and why no one will ever find him unless he wants to be found.( so he will not be hidding in some hidden room someplace .. because he can hide in public and standing right next to you.. .
but we can find his dna.. :P
because he is going to be leaving little slobbering baby fingerprints everywhere ..

But I do have a little problem. it seems he also is wanting to get the medical society to rethink some of their ideas and procedures ... because I have been denied proper care from two places so far. because no doctor or nurse around me will even check my belly with a Negative preg test. ..
the local clinic did give me a pap.. as I still had a " top" of my "vaginal Pocket" as she called it .
but they will not and did not touch me with a stethoscope or ultrasound or anything. because I have a negative preg test so far..... ( with no ovaries to interact with hormones) .

Instead they were trying to get me to take a mammogram. which I had to deny.. of course.


but once I say have had menopause before that then had a hysterectomy.. . and had no sex for 2 years which doesn't matter if you have no eggs or womb of your own either.
well they think I am crazy.
but I am not crazy..
but there is at least one baby in there .. and it is already under my ribs.. so something huge is growing in there.

I remember after the dream when I saw a light like "being" it was angelic like..... put a "seed" in some woman's belly.
then in the next few days on my walk, all of creation seemed to be following me for months even now .. the birds the neighbors Dogs and squirls.. and cows... just everything.. like snow white or something..
but on one day after a few weeks... I looked up to heaven and said
" you put something in me Didn't you? how come I now feel kind of like Mia Farrow in Rosemary's baby? " ? but only it is all creation that is following me "
that dream was 3 years ago on( the first or last) day of Channukah 2016 ( I think new years eve, maybe jan 1st and or the 8th day of Channukah ). it, of course, took me about 2 or more weeks to realize it was me in the dream that had been implanted with something and it wasn't just too much pizza on new years.. .. or I thought it was about someone else. and so it sure wasn't a child then!
but for a few months back then I wonder if I was going to turn into a tree or blow up or something...

He must have given me ( Dan 7 says "heart") (a new, womb, even a divine kind of womb maybe it is his spiritual heart ???) to but this baby in that doesn't seem to need hormones, seed or sperm.. nothing .. nope. it seems it needs no human help.. except maybe food and me to not jump around and carrying 50lbs sacks of grain and dog food.oops ...( <LOL> I think I had better stop that stuff!!!! ). because in the last three weeks or maybe a LITTLE MORE I HAVE HAD STRANGE FEELINGS THERE.. when I eat and when I sleep she kicks and it feels just like any other of my babies did at 5-6 months too . the flutters and the rolling .. it is like De Ja Vue!!
So it won't be long before Jesse and thus King David and thus Jesse II ( Jesus) the one older/"Greater than Solomon ( HIS NAME MEANS " HIS REPLACEMENT" )".. his YDna and eventually his mtDNA line will be able to be confirmed and a true Dna time LINE AND TIME table can be established for all mankind.
I will suspect KING David and( all of the 13)Israeli clans AND ALL THEIR DIRECT CLAN DNA (WITH VARIATIONS IN LOCATIONS AND TIME RANGES ) ..even should be able to be extrapolated, from the Y and mtDNA of the known/found "miracle" babies.

because he Jesse II/ Jr(?) the grand son of Jesse I is sending them ahead of him for a reason..

maybe to confirm who He is and be able to establish that right in any court of law and in any age.. as Isa 53, Eze, REV ( the 7 daughters of the Pleiades( stars in his hand.. confirms the Son who carried the sins of the world and redeemed men.. will have seed in this life and he will prosper in this life..and the next.

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Old 06-10-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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Forget David. The more important question is, what happened to Saul's son Esh-Baal?

Chronicles:
9:39 Ner was the father of Kish, Kish the father of Saul, and Saul the father of Jonathan, Malki-Shua, Abinadab and Esh-Baal.

But then
10:2 The Philistines pressed hard after Saul and his sons, and they killed his sons Jonathan, Abinadab and Malki-Shua.
...
10:6 So Saul and his three sons died, and all his house died together.

Huh? Huh? Huh? What do you mean who cares?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:51 PM
 
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Forget David. The more important question is, what happened to Saul's son Esh-Baal?

Chronicles:
9:39 Ner was the father of Kish, Kish the father of Saul, and Saul the father of Jonathan, Malki-Shua, Abinadab and Esh-Baal.

But then
10:2 The Philistines pressed hard after Saul and his sons, and they killed his sons Jonathan, Abinadab and Malki-Shua.
...
10:6 So Saul and his three sons died, and all his house died together.

Huh? Huh? Huh? What do you mean who cares?
Esh-baal, is one and the same person as Ishboshesh, the son of Saul, who Abner made King over Israel.

After the death of Abner, two brothers, 'Rechab and Baanah,' Killed Ishboshesh while he was asleep and took his head to David, who had his men kill the two brothers and cut off their hands and feet and hung their bodies by the pool at Hebron, but they took the head of Ishboshesh and buried it in the tomb of Abner.

The name 'Isboshesh' means "MAN OF SHAME." The only son of Saul, who did not die with his father and three brothers.

See 2 Samuel 4: 1; and 4: 5-12. But this has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.
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Old 06-11-2019, 01:14 AM
 
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1 Chronicles 2:13-16
Jesse begot Eliab his firstborn, Abinadab the second, Shimea (Shammah) the third, Nethanel the fourth, Raddai the fifth, Ozem the sixth, and David the seventh. Now their sisters were Zeruiah and Abigail (half-sister).

Abigail and Zeruiah are referred to as David's sisters.
Yea, I screwed that one up...I mixed several different things that I was reading on up...Nitzevet was David’s mother...
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Old 06-11-2019, 01:20 AM
 
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Yea, I screwed that one up...I mixed several different things that I was reading on up...Nitzevet was David’s mother...

Not to worry, we all screw up at some time or another.
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