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Old 06-15-2019, 06:26 PM
 
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Interesting. I almost never hear anyone except Mormons refer to Jesus Christ as our "brother."
And I didn't know they did. That's what he is to me! Big brother and teacher...
helper, inspiration...unlike most people he isn't my liaison to our Dad. Probably said too much!!!
Oh I didn't say too much since this is about the Trinity...or not one.

 
Old 06-15-2019, 07:02 PM
 
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About 82-85 AD, the Christians who had remained observant Temple worshiping Jews following the death of Jesus changed their philosophy and then considered Jesus to be divine.


This resulted in the "parting of the ways" in which Christians were excluded from the Jewish synagogues as apostates (see the 12 Benediction).




To explain having more than one God, about the 3rd century the "Trinity" concept was invented, the three in one God.


But if the Trinity teaching is to be maintained, the three persons of he Blessed Trinity, have to be consubstantial (same substance), co-eternal, and coequal.


However, scripture tells us that:


New International Version
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."


So the Son is not coequal with the Father. In fact he is ignorant about his role as a divinity.

That the Father was not scourged and nailed to the cross did not diminish His authority or His coequalness
either .
Your spiritual discernment is miles wide & inches deep .
 
Old 06-15-2019, 08:11 PM
 
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That the Father was not scourged and nailed to the cross did not diminish His authority or His coequalness
either .
Your spiritual discernment is miles wide & inches deep .
I didn't know what these 2 sentences meant.
So you think the Father is coequal?
And Aristotle's insight is only superficial covering a wide area?
Thanks
 
Old 06-15-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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I didn't know what these 2 sentences meant.
So you think the Father is coequal?
And Aristotle's insight is only superficial covering a wide area?
Thanks
The highest place that heaven affords is His by sovereign right .The head once crowned with thorns is today
crowned with coequal glory .
The fact that the Father does not also contain those eternal wounds make Him no less coequal .
As the fact that the Son does not know the hour make him no less coequal .
Aristotle's disquieted spiritually superficial condition notwithstanding .
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:29 PM
 
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Default The Trinity fiction

Our ancient ancestors did not know our "personhood" resides in our consciousness (and most people today still do not), so they made up something that they thought would explain the references they could not otherwise explain. They even created an entire jargon using hypostatic unions and kenosis, etc. to pretend to explain what they just did NOT understand. What Jesus and God have in common is their consciousness (Holy Spirit). No HUMAN consciousness ever possessed God's Holy Spirit consciousness until Jesus. That is how He is the Way we are connected to God through His consciousness (Holy Spirit) as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts." All the silliness about three "persons" is simply the product of their ignorance.
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:29 PM
 
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About 82-85 AD, the Christians who had remained observant Temple worshiping Jews following the death of Jesus changed their philosophy and then considered Jesus to be divine.


This resulted in the "parting of the ways" in which Christians were excluded from the Jewish synagogues as apostates (see the 12 Benediction).




To explain having more than one God, about the 3rd century the "Trinity" concept was invented, the three in one God.


But if the Trinity teaching is to be maintained, the three persons of he Blessed Trinity, have to be consubstantial (same substance), co-eternal, and coequal.


However, scripture tells us that:


New International Version
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."


So the Son is not coequal with the Father. In fact he is ignorant about his role as a divinity.
Or you can simply read what the apostles wrote, and the words Jesus spoke, along with prophecy and see that He actually is God the Son, the 2nd person of the Trinity.
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:31 PM
 
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Our ancient ancestors did not know our "personhood" resides in our consciousness (and most people today still do not), so they made up something that they thought would explain the references they could not otherwise explain. They even created an entire jargon using hypostatic unions and kenosis, etc. to pretend to explain what they just did NOT understand. What Jesus and God have in common is their consciousness (Holy Spirit). No HUMAN consciousness ever possessed God's Holy Spirit consciousness until Jesus. That is how He is the Way we are connected to God through His consciousness (Holy Spirit) as the Comforter sent in His name to guide us to the Truth God has "written in our hearts." All the silliness about three "persons" is simply the product of their ignorance.
What's that? The people of the Bible believed in the Trinity and thought mysticism was a bunch of hooey?
 
Old 06-15-2019, 09:42 PM
 
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What's that? The people of the Bible believed in the Trinity and thought mysticism was a bunch of hooey?
No. they had no clue and simply did not understand why when they saw Jesus they saw God because they had no clue that it is the consciousness ("mind of Christ") that revealed the "mind of God" (consciousness). They were told that but they simply did not understand it as you clearly do not.
 
Old 06-16-2019, 03:32 AM
 
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Jesus warns us from Revelation 13:18 that the number of the beast with is mans number 666 which is under the spiritual authority of the beast , where the number of God would be 333 which is three in the trinity ......... Like Father God is 3 in 333, and Son Jesus is 3 in 333 and Holy Spirit is 3 in 333 or 3 in the trinity ...... So then substitutions like adding mans number 6 for authority of belief like 366 or 336 or 663, or 666 would be a grave error, as this is the wisdom of Knowing God
 
Old 06-16-2019, 04:42 AM
 
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Jesus warns us from Revelation 13:18 that the number of the beast with is mans number 666 which is under the spiritual authority of the beast, where the number of God would be 333 which is three in the trinity ......... Like Father God is 3 in 333, and Son Jesus is 3 in 333 and Holy Spirit is 3 in 333 or 3 in the trinity ...... So then substitutions like adding mans number 6 for authority of belief like 366 or 336 or 663, or 666 would be a grave error, as this is the wisdom of Knowing God
The anti-Christ number is 666, which is correct. The number of Jesus is 888. How the number of Jesus is 888, search for 888 or jesus888.

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