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Jesus said you could speak and teach against him, and that you can willingly sin in not only not keeping the commandments, but that you could actually teach other people to sin in teaching them not to keep the commandments.
Jesus spoke of a difference between the 3 sections, and even the least in the kingdom are saved, Jesus was always referring to the higher zoe kingdom but that doesn't mean people in those other sections aren't saved, we are shown that they are saved even after they go through a fire, saved but not in the zoe kingdom.
Jesus said you could speak and teach against him, and that you can willingly sin in not only not keeping the commandments, but that you could actually teach other people to sin in teaching them not to keep the commandments.
Jesus spoke of a difference between the 3 sections, and even the least in the kingdom are saved, Jesus was always referring to the higher zoe kingdom but that doesn't mean people in those other sections aren't saved, we are shown that they are saved even after they go through a fire, saved but not in the zoe kingdom.
I posted this verse in a different thread but it seems to say the least is the prophet and the greatest is the priest
Jer 8:10 So I will give their wives to others, their fields to those who shall inherit. For everyone from the least even to the greatest cuts off a profit. From the prophet even to the priest, everyone deals falsely.
Least = prophet, greatest = priest
Also, the office of the “john” in the New Testament is prophet and is the least
Mat 5:17 Do not think that I came to annul the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 Truly I say to you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, in no way shall one iota or one point pass away from the Law until all comes to pass.
Mat 5:19 Therefore, whoever relaxes one of these commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called least in the kingdom of Heaven. But whoever does and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of Heaven.
I posted this verse in a different thread but it seems to say the least is the prophet and the greatest is the priest
Jer 8:10 So I will give their wives to others, their fields to those who shall inherit. For everyone from the least even to the greatest cuts off a profit. From the prophet even to the priest, everyone deals falsely.
Least = prophet, greatest = priest
Also, the office of the “john” in the New Testament is prophet and is the least
Mat 5:17 Do not think that I came to annul the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 Truly I say to you, Until the heaven and the earth pass away, in no way shall one iota or one point pass away from the Law until all comes to pass.
Mat 5:19 Therefore, whoever relaxes one of these commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called least in the kingdom of Heaven. But whoever does and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of Heaven.
Jesus said that some would see the kingdom of heaven before they tasted death, and then we were shown what the kingdom actually is.
Elijah
Moses
Jesus
This is a person, a prophet, a priest, and a king.
Whatever anyone tries to make of what Jesus said in a spiritual way, it certainly does not cancel out what he literlally said, and what he literally said is common sense, and not something that should need debate.
''Whoever keeps the laws of Moses to then teach others to keep the laws of Moses,'' THEY will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.''
This has no debate, whoever sins less to then teach others to sin less is OF COURSE, the greatest in the kingdom of heaven in their own right, and whoever will not keep the laws of Moses to then teach others not to keep the laws of Moses is teaching people disresepct for the commandments of God, and EVEN THEY ARE SAVED.
I read everything with a deeper meaning but just because something has a deeper meaning, it doesn't always cancel out what is actually said and known to be true by comnon sense.
Jesus had a great deal to say about people who disrespect the Torah and people who teach lawlessness, IN FACT, the whole bible is pointing to a lawless time when none of the world has respect for Torah, for the religion of God, the religion Jesus actually loved and practiced.
Jesus sends the disrepectful to the outer court, and he makes this concept of the lawless in many places, in many parables, the greatest of which, is the parable of the prodigal son, directly showing us the actual history of the prodigal nation of Ephraim who called the Torah a strange thing, and who accepted Easter and Christmas just as Christians did, but the kingdom of Ephraim/Israel had done what Christianity did, a thousand years before Jesus was born, they became pagans in accepting Easter and Christmas.
OF COURSE the lawful are the greatest, and for very good reason.
The nation of Israel has been suffering by the hands of the world ever since they began doing what God has demanded them to do.
God has demanded that Judah always keep the law, and they have never, EVER, abandoned or denied what God demanded them to do, and what God has demanded them to do, is to simply keep his commandments, his religion, the same religion Jesus loved and practiced EVERY SINGLE DAY.
For this, the world has hated, persecuted and killed anyone who would dare to practice Judaim, the religion Jesus practiced.
For 2000 years the world has persecuted and killed the people keeping and teaching the commandments of God.
SO OF COURSE JESUS WAS CORRECT, '' whoever keeps the laws of Moses to then teach others to keep the laws of Moses will be the greatest in the kingdom of God.
If you are practicing Judaism, and then you are teaching others to practice Judaism, you are teaching people how to be Israel, how to obtain the inheritance of Israel where a Gentile would become a co heir with Jews practicing Judaism, and thereby obtaining an inheritance in Israel.
Christians don't do this anymore, Christians are no longer in Judaism, no longer under the covenant in Israel because they are no longer Israel, they fall under the covenant of Noah, NOT the covenant tnat Messiah ONLY BRINGS FOR EPHRAIM AND JUDAH.
Those first Christians were adopted under the promise to Ephraim/Israel..
That is no longer the case, and now the Jews are the only ones actually doing what Jesus said.
They keep the commandments of God and they teach others to do likewise, and make no mistake about it, if they are teaching a Gentile to do what they do, then they are teaching a Gentile to be hated by the whole world because they honor God.
OF COURSE THEY ARE THE GREATEST.
Last edited by Hannibal Flavius; 07-02-2019 at 04:55 PM..
YOU are the kingdom of heaven because YOU are two separate kingdoms as Judah and Ephraim are two separate kingdoms, one of flesh, and one of spirit, and this has always been true since Cain and Abel. The two eyes you have, they are two separate kingdoms where the right eye sees lust and greed, and the left eye is supposed to give you power not to fall so low as to live a greedy, lustful life, the two are kingdom against kingdom,'' YOU.''
Kingdom against Kingdom, you are always doing somethkng you wished you wouldn't do
You do what you don't want to do because you sin, and you don't want to sin, you are two separate kingdoms consisting of a goat and a sheep. The goat will not listen, he will go his own way and so what he wants to do while the sheep will know and obey his shepherd, even more loyal than a dog.
Two of you, two separate kingdoms where the two kingdoms of Israel is an example of what you are as two kingdoms, one lawful kingdom, and one lawless kingdom, you.
Amen. It exists in it's entirety within our true idenity.
There is an unlikely tale about the brilliant Renaissance artist Michelangelo. He was asked about the difficulties that he must have encountered in sculpting his masterpiece David. But he replied with an unassuming and comical description of his creative process:
It is easy. You just chip away the stone that doesn’t look like David.
I believe that the law of the Father is found in the relationship provided through the Holy Spirit Jesus provided.
The law of the Father is specific to the individual and the event at hand.
Just as Jesus said, "I only do what my Father tells me."
If one is to nit pick over scriptures you will see change orders several times according to the events at hand.
If you believe that one must obey all old testament law then you must still be doing animal sacrifice too. yes ?
There are a lot of things God gave instruction to men specifically and for that moment.
The Holy Spirit is the one giving God's instruction now.
With out Him we are abusing scriptures to our own satisfaction, just as they did during Jesus visit.
Satan even tried to tempt Jesus , misusing scriptures Matthew 4;.
Out side an honest relationship all you got is religion / academics . Matthew 7;21,22,23,
In the light of eternity I value the relationship greatest and the academics God can administer at His pleasure .
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