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The Romans were barbarians were the freedoms of religion was not a right , were the rules over religion were the dictates of the local leader ...... But Jesus did say ``render to Cesar what is Cesar , and to God what is God`s``
Actually he lost his head because he wasn't politically correct and called out the royal family for their behavior.
I can understand why John doubted - but I assume He maintained faith in Christ until the end.
I don't think Jesus said exactly that he was least in the kingdom of heaven.
- John's Commission from God was to prepare the way for
The Lamb Of God Who'd take away the sin of the world.
Not bringing down a king.
John said I must decrease and Jesus must increase.
John did not decease his public role by going after the highest authority in the land.
John elevated himself by publicly declaring the sin of the king.
Jesus was not there to overthrow a kingdom. As many learned.
Jesus did said, John would be least in the kingdom of heaven.
In prison John finally sent message to Jesus asking Him if He was The One or do they look for Another?
- John's Commission from God was to prepare the way for
The Lamb Of God Who'd take away the sin of the world.
Not bringing down a king.
John said I must decrease and Jesus must increase.
John did not decease his public role by going after the highest authority in the land.
John elevated himself by publicly declaring the sin of the king.
Jesus was not there to overthrow a kingdom. As many learned.
Jesus did said, John would be least in the kingdom of heaven.
In prison John finally sent message to Jesus asking Him if He was The One or do they look for Another?
Nope, he said the least would be greater than John, so no John in the kingdom of the heavens. He will be resurrected to life on earth.
KJV Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
KJV Psalm 37:29 The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.
KJV Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
KJV Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.
Revelation 21:3-4 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Revelation 22:1-2 KJV Revelation 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
- John The Baptist got into political correctness and lost his head.
Then when going to prison John even came to doubt who Jesus was.
- I always wondered why Jesus didn't visit John in prison;
He didn't need permission He could walk through walls.
Jesus said in there was no greater Prophet than John The Baptist.
Yet John would be the least in the kingdom of heaven. -
I find while Jesus was alive on Earth Jesus could Not walk through walls.
Only after God resurrected the dead Jesus back to his per-human spirit body could Jesus walk through walls.
Those who died before Jesus' died (such as John the Baptist) only have an earthly resurrection -> John 3:13.
This is why even dead King David did Not ascend as per Acts 2:34.
The earthly resurrection takes place on Resurrection Day meaning Jesus' Millennium-Long Day of governing over Earth.
Because earthly resurrections are future is why Acts 24:15 uses the 'future tense' that there 'is going to be' a resurrection....
Like King David, John the Baptist will have a future earthly position - Ezekiel 34:23-24; Psalm 45:16; Isaiah 32:1-2
- John The Baptist got into political correctness and lost his head.
Then when going to prison John even came to doubt who Jesus was.
- I always wondered why Jesus didn't visit John in prison;
He didn't need permission He could walk through walls.
Jesus said in there was no greater Prophet than John The Baptist.
Yet John would be the least in the kingdom of heaven. -
Actually, John lost his head because he got involved in the politics of the day. Big difference.
For the careful reader, there's a message that resonates with modern times, especially when so much of fundamentalist Christianity has wrapped itself in the flag. Moderator cut: Too politicalWhen the Fourth of July becomes the third biggest religious holiday in churches next to Easter and Christmas, when church services begin to resemble political rallies with bunting everywhere and a full program of patriotic music, it means that you're worshiping the wrong things. No one can serve two masters after all.
Moderator cut: All political
Mind you, this is not to say that churches should not speak out on the issues, far from it. The Civil Rights Movement was an explicitly Christian cause, waged mostly by black churches but with material and moral support from most white churches as well. So was the fight against slavery, bad working conditions, child labor, and a host of other crusades of the day. But there is an enormous difference between being an advocate for Christ's saving grace in the world wherever it is needed and being a lapdog for <politicians>.
Christ said it himself, render under Caesar that which is Caesar's. And there's an explicit sermon in that quote. For whenever Christianity seeks to become an establishment faith, Christianity suffers in the process. And, even worse, when Christianity allows itself to be used as the tool of one faction or another in terms of getting votes in an election, it get soiled for participating in the dirtiest business around.
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Actually, he lost his head because he got involved in the politics of the day. Big difference.
For the careful reader, there's a message that resonates with modern times, especially when so much of fundamentalist Christianity has wrapped itself in the flag. Moderator cut: political When the Fourth of July becomes the third biggest religious holiday in churches next to Easter and Christmas, when church services begin to resemble political rallies with bunting everywhere and a full program of patriotic music, it means that you're worshiping the wrong things. No one can serve two masters after all.
Moderator cut: All political
Mind you, this is not to say that churches should not speak out on the issues, far from it. The Civil Rights Movement was an explicitly Christian cause, waged mostly by black churches but with material and moral support from most white churches as well. So was the fight against slavery, working conditions, child labor, and a host of other crusades of the day. But there is an enormous difference between being an advocate for Christ's saving grace in the world wherever it is needed and being a lapdog for <politicians>.
Christ said it himself, render under Caesar that which is Caesar's. And there's an explicit sermon in that quote. For whenever Christianity seeks to become an establishment faith, Christianity suffers in the process. And, even worse, when Christianity allows itself to be used as the tool of one faction or another in terms of getting votes in an election, it get soiled for participating in the dirtiest business around.
Amen. When religion and government become intertwined, both are corrupted. Christians should be the first on line demanding separation of church and state.
Actually, John lost his head because he got involved in the politics of the day. Big difference.
For the careful reader, there's a message that resonates with modern times, especially when so much of fundamentalist Christianity has wrapped itself in the flag. Moderator cut: Too politicalWhen the Fourth of July becomes the third biggest religious holiday in churches next to Easter and Christmas, when church services begin to resemble political rallies with bunting everywhere and a full program of patriotic music, it means that you're worshiping the wrong things. No one can serve two masters after all.
Moderator cut: All political
Mind you, this is not to say that churches should not speak out on the issues, far from it. The Civil Rights Movement was an explicitly Christian cause, waged mostly by black churches but with material and moral support from most white churches as well. So was the fight against slavery, bad working conditions, child labor, and a host of other crusades of the day. But there is an enormous difference between being an advocate for Christ's saving grace in the world wherever it is needed and being a lapdog for <politicians>.
Christ said it himself, render under Caesar that which is Caesar's. And there's an explicit sermon in that quote. For whenever Christianity seeks to become an establishment faith, Christianity suffers in the process. And, even worse, when Christianity allows itself to be used as the tool of one faction or another in terms of getting votes in an election, it get soiled for participating in the dirtiest business around.
- Not one time did God tell His people to
support, fight and die for the right of all gods to be worshiped among them as He is.
Check The Documents "Freedom Of Religion" is from The Government. Not God.
And now we see how well that's worked out for us. -
The Romans were barbarians were the freedoms of religion was not a right , were the rules over religion were the dictates of the local leader ...... But Jesus did say ``render to Cesar what is Cesar , and to God what is God`s``
Many people do not understand what that phrase actually says, When he said "Render unto Cesar WHAT IS Caesars, and to God, WHAT IS Gods", 'what is' is the key words.
It means that we should give 'Caesar', WHAT IS his to ask for and ONLY what is his to ask for, there are going to be occasions when Caesar asks of us, but it is not his place to ask, and he should be denied if that is the case, its up to us to recognize this.
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