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That fits the ideologies of most of Christianism: "You're nothing but a piece of garbage that is undeserving of anything ...
" Do not use your God given abilities to reason things out - the Scriptures say (as often seen in quotations from fundamentalists)?
"..having eyes full of adultery that never cease from sin..." in 2 Peter
Then, we have we are ''worms, maggots (Job+Psalms), filthy rags, (Isaiah)'' ...as I recall...well...and the ever present reminder we
are ''all sinners, born sinners''.
And this for unbelievers, how special:
To the pure, all things are pure; but to those who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure, but both their mind and their conscience are defiled.
They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed. -Titus 1:15
-Just because you were given a mind that wants to see, understand, analyze but can't
make sense of the Invisible...or were raised with this kind of model....*"You must see to believe"... *"Education, logic, the scientific mind is superior to anything that can not be proven."
(My friends are atheists...usually better people than my Christian friends--- committing adultery consistently, for example...
and telling 'white lies' regularly to their bosses and others. They tell me.)
Yay! Let's all love the Bible, as it's the inerrant word of God...sacred writings? Um, don't think so...
tho, there is Truth in there...I quote it a lot...Delight in the Lord, Be still, Cast your cares, give Him your burdens, Go to the secret place, Focus on the things above, be anxious for nothing, wherever I go You are there!Seek the Kingdom first! (most regarding trusting the Lord.)
*(To be clear: I adore God and He adores me...it is Man's distorted misconception
of God I do not agree with.)
I'm simply providing the correct information concerning the usage of the word γραφῇ. Again, it can refer to any writing, or it can refer specifically to holy scripture.
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What do you think was the definition of "scripture" in 2 Tim 3:16? Do you disagree with the dictionary meaning? What do you think Paul was really saying if you are suggesting that it was not sacred writings?
I've already provided the Greek Lexicon meaning and I obviously do agree with it.
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How do you interpret 2 Tim 3:16?
As I said, every mention of γραφῇ in the New Testament refers to holy scripture. That includes 2 Tim 3:16.
When you (or whoever it was) tries to redefine a word incorrectly, it changes the meaning of the New Testament passage. It's a deliberate distortion. The other meaning of the word has nothing to do with this topic.
This whole side topic was prompted by a New Testament passage, right? So what is the purpose of trying to distort what it says?
Maybe the way in which they are defining it now is the actual distortion of its original meaning...
In the context in which it was written, it most certainly did include the sacred writings.
In the context of how it is used in the New Testament, the scriptures (writings/graphe) are the law and prophets which The messiah (Jesus/Joshua/yeshua) came to fulfill
The New Testament calls their own writings epistles, gospels and letters which expound/interpret the scriptures (Hebrew writings) in relation to ‘the messiah’
It is not about Jew/Greek slave/free male/female - but one in CHRIST
There is one God, one Christ, one body (but many members)
The people of God are to gather together in LOVE not despising their Jewish, Buddhist, Catholic, Baptist, Calvinist, Islamic, etc neighbours
I guess if Jesus never intended on saving everyone(according to calvinists), and only intended on saving certain Christians, then perhaps Jesus’ sacrifice was done in vain. What good is limited atonement if hardly anybody was predestined to salvation?
I guess if Jesus never intended on saving everyone(according to calvinists), and only intended on saving certain Christians, then perhaps Jesus’ sacrifice was done in vain. What good is limited atonement if hardly anybody was predestined to salvation?
Well the people who get so excited at the idea that THEY are the special ones who get the post-death goodies and everybody else gets annihilated or sentenced to eternal fire and chewing-upon by demons and whatnot think it's good.
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