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What I am saying is, If God is a God of faith and his desire is for all to come to faith and knowledge of the truth is the will of man ever going to stop the desire of God ?.
What I am saying is, If God is a God of faith and his desire is for
all to come to faith and knowledge of the truth is the will of man ever going to stop the desire of God ?.
The desire of God has to be understood, tho ...His desire is that Man's heart would open to Him from
such a pure and innocent place. God's desire is for more and more and more Love.
The Brilliant System that He has set up is for learning and growth...you touch the hot stove enough you learn and grow
(weirdos call this punishment or even the wrath of God or put a 'bad' spin on the word Karma.)
This learning and growth can only lead to Him.
As we live, (in this System), we naturally become bored, let's say...the System set up is that nothing lasts, nothing is permanent, everything changes...otherwise called suffering by the Buddhists.
As we search for the romantic love that doesn't wane, the high, the joy that doesn't crash, etc...
we slowly come around to searching...and that search leads us to where we came from-- our Origin,
our Creator....the Holder of Ever-lasting Bliss, Satchitanand...the Door to All Wisdom.
So both our will and God's is the same ...we want Boundless Love, Eternal Joy beyond imagination. It's just Man is looking in the wrong places, like a maze he comes to dead ends...until he turns the right corner and is set Free and finds Home.
Then, Man's desire (will) and God's desire (Will) are both fulfilled.
The desire of God has to be understood, tho ...His desire is that Man's heart would open to Him from
such a pure and innocent place. God's desire is for more and more and more Love.
The Brilliant System that He has set up is for learning and growth...you touch the hot stove enough you learn and grow
(weirdos call this punishment or even the wrath of God or put a 'bad' spin on the word Karma.)
This learning and growth can only lead to Him.
As we live, (in this System), we naturally become bored, let's say...the System set up is that nothing lasts, nothing is permanent, everything changes...otherwise called suffering by the Buddhists.
As we search for the romantic love that doesn't wane, the high, the joy that doesn't crash, etc...
we slowly come around to searching...and that search leads us to where we came from-- our Origin,
our Creator....the Holder of Ever-lasting Bliss, Satchitanand...the Door to All Wisdom.
So both our will and God's is the same ...we want Boundless Love, Eternal Joy beyond imagination. It's just Man is looking in the wrong places, like a maze he comes to dead ends...until he turns the right corner and is set Free and finds Home.
Then, Man's desire (will) and God's desire (Will) are both fulfilled.
Miss H, if you have a desire for all to be saved, you have to know there is one greater with a greater desire.
The question then is, saved from what and saved to what ...... My answer to that is from being alienated in our minds from God through the belief of being separated from him,which brings about transformation by the renewal of the mind, which changes how we view God and our neighbor and we live out our lives in harmony with God our Father in abundant life. If you can beat that i would be happy to hear about it. I am a big believer in there is always more.
Miss H, if you have a desire for all to be saved, you have to
know there is one greater with a greater desire.
The question then is, saved from what and saved to what ......
My answer to that is from being alienated in our minds from God through the belief of being separated from him,which brings about transformation by the renewal of the mind, which changes how we view God and our neighbor and we live out our lives in harmony with God our Father in abundant life. If you can beat that i would be happy to hear about it. I am a big believer in there is always more.
I never use the word 'saved'...I had to look in my quote to be sure...I didn't in that whole thing.
(Rem I'm not a Christian, and that is one reason; I don't believe we needed to be saved..except from
our own delusions, of course.
I usually keep that on the DL so it won't cause a rukus.)
So the blue I could not relate to. I'm so sorry.
I agree our minds are alienated from God, the belief of sep, yes...the ''which brings about transformation "...is a pretty long road...but yes,
by renewal of the mind...by sheer Grace.
The renewal of the mind changes everything! Yes! Harmony and boundless abundance in all avenues. Yes.
And it's always great to hear it again and again.
Your belief in there is 'always more' is wonderful! I never put it in those words but, I love it...always MORE!
I say things like boundless riches, endless love...always more may be my new phrase!
More happiness, more love, more fun, more healings, more protection, more peace...
more to know.
I never use the word 'saved'...I had to look in my quote to be sure...I didn't in that whole thing.
(Rem I'm not a Christian, and that is one reason; I don't believe we needed to be saved..except from
our own delusions, of course.
I usually keep that on the DL so it won't cause a rukus.)
So the blue I could not relate to. I'm so sorry.
I agree our minds are alienated from God, the belief of sep, yes...the ''which brings about transformation "...is a pretty long road...but yes,
by renewal of the mind...by sheer Grace.
The renewal of the mind changes everything! Yes! Harmony and boundless abundance in all avenues. Yes.
And it's always great to hear it again and again.
Your belief in there is 'always more' is wonderful! I never put it in those words but, I love it...always MORE!
I say things like boundless riches, endless love...always more may be my new phrase!
More happiness, more love, more fun, more healings, more protection, more peace...
more to know.
Miss H, I don’t believe I said you did. I originally said to you that God desires all to come to a knowledge of the truth and asked is the will of man ever going to stop that?. You then said the desire of God needs to be understood . I responded with if We have a desire for all to be saved, then we know there is a greater one with a greater desire than ours. By this statement I was trying to explain how we can know whether something is will of God by our own desires.
On being saved, I absolutely believe it but not how it is taught in the churches. We are saved from a life of being alienated in our minds from him, which is the root cause of all unbelief/sin. That is why I believe fundamentalists are the biggest sinners on the face of the earth because they promote separation from God.
pcamps...so funny if we were in person we would communicate so much faster and better!!!
(Esp cuz we seem to be on the same page!)
I also believe the churches promote sep of God...one reason I'm not into org religions...
seems like all of them...not just the Fundamentalist ones.
pcamps...so funny if we were in person we would communicate so much faster and better!!!
(Esp cuz we seem to be on the same page!)
I also believe the churches promote sep of God...one reason I'm not into org religions...
seems like all of them...not just the Fundamentalist ones.
Good reason to join a local church (bolded above).
Good reason to join a local church (bolded above).
Oh, and here I was thinking of getting a beer with him.
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