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Old 10-23-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: NY
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Those are not superstitions just fabricated by ancient ignorant people. For one thing, archaeological evidence constantly is showing us that ancient people were highly intelligent and very advanced with their limited resources. God created those laws for a finite time and purpose. He also instructed them to bury their feces away from camp. How would man back them know about infectious diseases when it took science thousands of years later to understand it? And if you say that is just common sense then look at places like India where they don't seem bothered by very poor sanitation practices.
But some of those laws have no basis in fact or science. Like the menstruating women prohibition, and others. I wasn't being unkind calling it superstition. They did the best they could with what they knew. Someday someone will look back on me and think that about me. I'm a believer in the primal wisdom of ancient people. I often use that as an argument FOR religion---that people as far back as we can remember worshipped god(s) and goddesses. They were onto something, but they got it wrong a lot. We have to let our ideas about God evolve as we evolve, or we end up carrying forward the mistakes of the ancients.

 
Old 10-23-2019, 12:19 PM
 
Location: New England
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Why does it need to "do" something for him? It's truth. It's not subject to how it affects him.
So Jesus Christ who called himself the truth does not have any effect on you?. The effect of who he is and his teachings which in a nutshell are what he is, most certainly have had an effect on me ?.
 
Old 10-23-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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The sad thing is, you've had it explained to you before, but you continue to attack as if you haven't. We don't follow those OT laws because it's been fulfilled. Christ fulfilled them. We're not ancient Israel, and we are not bound by those commands. It really is about context. You really ought to at least attempt to represent it correctly.

And since Jesus is God and he wrote the NT, he did believe it. And so do we.
LOL.
 
Old 10-23-2019, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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But some of those laws have no basis in fact or science. Like the menstruating women prohibition, and others. I wasn't being unkind calling it superstition. They did the best they could with what they knew. Someday someone will look back on me and think that about me. I'm a believer in the primal wisdom of ancient people. I often use that as an argument FOR religion---that people as far back as we can remember worshipped god(s) and goddesses. They were onto something, but they got it wrong a lot. We have to let our ideas about God evolve as we evolve, or we end up carrying forward the mistakes of the ancients.
He was crucified between two thieves: The mistakes of yesterday and the fears of tomorrow.
 
Old 10-23-2019, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The sad thing is, you've had it explained to you before, but you continue to attack as if you haven't. We don't follow those OT laws because it's been fulfilled. Christ fulfilled them. We're not ancient Israel, and we are not bound by those commands. It really is about context. You really ought to at least attempt to represent it correctly.

And since Jesus is God and he wrote the NT, he did believe it. And so do we.
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LOL.
I know, right.
 
Old 10-23-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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So Jesus Christ who called himself the truth does not have any effect on you?. The effect of who he is and his teachings which in a nutshell are what he is, most certainly have had an effect on me ?.
The question is, would Jesus still be Truth if he didn't have an effect on you?
 
Old 10-23-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: NY
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The question is, would Jesus still be Truth if he didn't have an effect on you?
You seem to interpret truth as Jesus' teachings being true. But Jesus says that truth does something: it sets you free spiritually.
 
Old 10-23-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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No he didn't. The New Testament wouldn't be assembled for another 300 years.

And you don't either. Or you'd be avoiding sitting in the same seat as a menstruating woman used and carefully checking your clothing labels so there would be no mixed fabrics.

Hypocrite. Phony.
Typical ignorant garbage from you.
 
Old 10-23-2019, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Typical ignorant garbage from you.
No. It's typically ignorant garbage from the bible.
 
Old 10-23-2019, 01:23 PM
 
Location: The Eastern Shore
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The sad thing is, you've had it explained to you before, but you continue to attack as if you haven't. We don't follow those OT laws because it's been fulfilled. Christ fulfilled them. We're not ancient Israel, and we are not bound by those commands. It really is about context. You really ought to at least attempt to represent it correctly.

And since Jesus is God and he wrote the NT, he did believe it. And so do we.
Except for the gay bit though, right, BF?
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