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Old 07-30-2019, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Jesus knew their hearts and that they could be changed. He would not have hung around with them if they refused to let go of their sinful ways.
Subjective or pure conjecture. But he did say they would be entering the Kingdom of heaven before the religious fundamentalists.

 
Old 07-30-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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You mean an adulterer, like me (divorced and remarried)? Yes. Never once has my free labor, or my tithes, been declined at church because of continual adultery. This is not hypothetical. This is current practice even in evangelical churches with over half its congregation divorced and remarried. Adulterers, by a literalist interpretation of scripture. They would literally have no volunteers if they banned us. Also, remember, people who lust in their hearts are adulterers, so we may not even have pastors.

I would also allow someone to serve who was in 12 step recovery, greedy, a liar, hypocrite, a glutton, ungrateful, covetous, someone who looks at porn, a gossiper, someone who doesn't give all they have to the poor, someone who is angry with their brother, Christians who don't forgive...etc. etc.

Can't you see that is all of us???

I mean really, would you care to create a list of people who can't serve? Let's try. There would be no one left! But rather, let's pick out a population that is less than 4% of the overall population and just ban them. That way we can project our entire shadow side on to them, and not have to deal with ourselves.
Kmom, Your soul inspires and elevates us all in Christ's love. Would that some of the hardened fundamentalists could let their hearts be touched by it.
 
Old 07-30-2019, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Jesus knew their hearts and that they could be changed. He would not have hung around with them if they refused to let go of their sinful ways.
Correct. He did not waste too much time with people who rejected His message. Instead He moved on to those who were willing to listen.

"Don’t give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

"If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet."
 
Old 07-30-2019, 04:33 PM
 
Location: New England
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Correct. He did not waste too much time with people who rejected His message. Instead He moved on to those who were willing to listen.

"Don’t give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

"If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet."
Lmao . What Bible you Reading. Those you condemn were the ones accepting him and rejecting the religion you belong to, a religion that’s not even a form of godliness. You just don’t get it do you ?
 
Old 07-30-2019, 04:55 PM
 
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I'm single and don't have sex. As I said, I don't sin any differently than anyone else there, yet they are allowed to serve and I am not.
Well then I don't see any justification for them doing that to you. If you want to serve then your heart is in the right place and that's what matters most.
 
Old 07-30-2019, 05:03 PM
 
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Lmao . What Bible you Reading. Those you condemn were the ones accepting him and rejecting the religion you belong to, a religion that’s not even a form of godliness. You just don’t get it do you ?
What Bible are you reading? Why can't you see that Jesus was firmly against sin? He is practically begging people to NOT sin here even take drastic measures if that is what it takes. Nothing absolutely nothing on this earth is worth risking going to hell.

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If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.


Matthew 5:29
 
Old 07-30-2019, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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What Bible are you reading? Why can't you see that Jesus was firmly against sin? He is practically begging people to NOT sin here even take drastic measures if that is what it takes. Nothing absolutely nothing on this earth is worth risking going to hell.

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If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
Matthew 5:29
So, fear is the (your) motivator for discriminating against others? That makes absolutely no sense.
 
Old 07-30-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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Correct. He did not waste too much time with people who rejected His message. Instead He moved on to those who were willing to listen.

"Don’t give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

"If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet."
jesus (aka yahweh) sucks at getting the most important message a person needs without screwing it up.


or did man god do what he said he was doing and picking and choosing who gets the carrot?

Matthew 13:10-11 New International Version (NIV)

10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”

11 He replied, <<<<<<<JESUS (aka yahweh)


“Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.
 
Old 07-30-2019, 05:22 PM
 
Location: New England
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What Bible are you reading? Why can't you see that Jesus was firmly against sin? He is practically begging people to NOT sin here even take drastic measures if that is what it takes. Nothing absolutely nothing on this earth is worth risking going to hell.




Matthew 5:29
You are cherry picking bible verses for the sole purpose of justifying judging sin in someone other than yourself. You cannot read the scriptures and not see that he walked in unconditional forgiveness towards all assumed sinners, and if he had anything strong to say t them it was with a velvet glove. Not so with those like yourself who condemned the assumed sinner rather than gouging out their own eye and cutting off their own sinning limbs.

I will say it again and say it with absolute conviction, God does not give a rats ass about sin,it does not move him in the slightest, his/her(That's for you Finn Jarber) only concern is how it affects the assumed sinners life, when there is something far greater for them than a life of missing the mark, which he came to save us from.
 
Old 07-30-2019, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Correct. He did not waste too much time with people who rejected His message. Instead He moved on to those who were willing to listen.

"Don’t give that which is holy to the dogs, neither throw your pearls before the pigs, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."

"If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet."
God said, "this is my Son in whom I am well pleased, listen to him." And Jesus, drew a line (of pearls) in the sand, separating those who (rejecting his message) would stone others to death - from those whom he did not condemn.
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