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If "violating your morals" means discriminating, then yes, I sure am!
So you have no problem if the government forced you to violate your moral code if it somehow involved a discriminatory element? I won't waste my time coming up with an analogy because then you will spin the line that I'm comparing gay people again.
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What a lying little liar you are Jeffery Base! I have clearly said, on multiple occasions and multiple threads, that I do not, under any circumstances, agree with death threats or anything of the sort, against anyone. Losing everything is completely up to them. If they choose to do something that ruins their business, that's on them. Not me, not the customer... Them.
Of course you said that when I called it out. Any decent human being would. Making a blanket statement like that doesn't show that you ever gave two rips about the victims or the threats to their children. Again, you demonstrate coldness by putting the blame on them. You won't even argue for a reasonable fine. NOOO, destroy their business completely!!
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Except you didn't answer the question, did you?? How are you NOT calling them an abomination, when you say being homosexual IS an abomination, and they live an abominable lifestyle? Please, do explain.
I did answer the question. You just have to auto reject anything I post so I'm not going to waste my time going over it again. Refer to my previous posts if you truly want an answer, but you don't.
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Plenty of kindness to those who deserve it. Unfortunately for you, bigots don't.
We believe in showing kindness to all people. Not making people have to EARN it. That's the nature of being a Bible believing Christian.
People have said they do NOT call people abominations, but those who claim to be hurt by Christians, seem to DEMAND that the word must be used.
Why play such silly games?
Someone said there are people who did bad things in the past, and have been able to leave such lifestyle behind. Nicky Cruz was a very violent man and everyone would agree he hurt lot of people, but why should we run around demanding that other people should call him an abomination? If you think he was such thing, then YOU call him that. What's the point of making demands about what words people should use?
So you have no problem if the government forced you to violate your moral code if it somehow involved a discriminatory element? I won't waste my time coming up with an analogy because then you will spin the line that I'm comparing gay people again.
I would have to be discriminatory to answer that question, Jeff. I'm not, so I can't answer.
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Of course you said that when I called it out. Any decent human being would. Making a blanket statement like that doesn't show that you ever gave two rips about the victims or the threats to their children. Again, you demonstrate coldness by putting the blame on them. You won't even argue for a reasonable fine. NOOO, destroy their business completely!!
I said that many times, on different threads. I can't prove I care about that specific family, just as you can't. The fact that you keep bringing it up, after I have already given you my thoughts on it, just shows you aren't here for any type of honesty.
As for your second part, I have never said to completely destroy their business. If they are in a business that will put them at odds with their religion, that IS on them, and they are to blame. Period. If society on a whole calls them out on it, and they end up closing, that IS their fault. Period. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. It is all up to them in the end. If they can withstand fines, then so be it. I don't really care. We all know you do though, and if fines were enacted, you would be crying about those too.
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I did answer the question. You just have to auto reject anything I post so I'm not going to waste my time going over it again. Refer to my previous posts if you truly want an answer, but you don't.
No, you clearly didn't. But that isn't surprising.
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We believe in showing kindness to all people. Not making people have to EARN it. That's the nature of being a Bible believing Christian.
Yea, sure Jeff... Sure. We all believe you.
I have, quite literally, never seen you show a single piece of kindness to anyone not a fundamentalist.
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People have said they do NOT call people abominations, but those who claim to be hurt by Christians, seem to DEMAND that the word must be used.
Why play such silly games?
Someone said there are people who did bad things in the past, and have been able to leave such lifestyle behind. Nicky Cruz was a very violent man and everyone would agree he hurt lot of people, but why should we run around demanding that other people should call him an abomination? If you think he was such thing, then YOU call him that. What's the point of making demands about what words people should use?
Why not let people choose their own words?
Why would he, your god the Bible does not say he’s abominable, it says homosexuals are and you agree with your god the Bible. So what does Nicky Cruz an hero of yours have to do with this thread?, he probably like you believes homosexuals are abominable. I’m pretty sure David Wilkinson did.
People have said they do NOT call people abominations, but those who claim to be hurt by Christians, seem to DEMAND that the word must be used.
Why play such silly games?
I don't know Finn, why do you play word games so often? I mean, there is a reason I nicknamed you "Mr. Wordgames" after all. And why can't you or Jeff answer the question posed to you?
Again, all you are doing is playing with words. The only way it would be equal to your example is to say well they are an abominator meaning they do abominable actions. That still sounds different than to say they are an abomination which suggests there is nothing good in them. If I have to reject God's Word to win your approval then I'll stick with God's Word. Men like you come and go. The Word lives forever.
Even Leviticus 20:13?
Oh, that's right ..."They shall be put to death" was the one part of God's word that didn't live forever.
That convenient deletion from Leviticus 20:13 sure gets you guys off'a the hook! That said, what do 'you guys' actually believe about the Bible, Jeff? I mean, you're all over the place, man.
Oh, that's right ..."They shall be put to death" was the one part of God's word that didn't live forever.
That convenient deletion from Leviticus 20:13 sure gets you guys off'a the hook! That said, what do 'you guys' actually believe about the Bible, Jeff? I mean, you're all over the place, man.
Do we really need to go over this again? You need to go back to Sunday school if you don't understand the purpose of the death penalty and the role of Christ dying for our sins. Your anti-Bible version of Christ is well within the minority.
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