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It's been asked before of you and others, but I have yet to see anyone answer: Why is harm the litmus test to determine right or wrong?
That is their own standard, not God's standard.
God's standard:
"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own"
People who set their own standards are basically saying they have no need for God.
"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own"
People who set their own standards are basically saying they have no need for God.
LOL, this is true, but to be fair, look at the context. He's writing to a specific group of people, the church community in Corinth. Obviously he's not just saying this stuff to pull something out of his ass. There must have been rumours or actual incidents going on that prompted him to specifically write what he wrote.
The fledgling church did not need to have outsiders looking in and saying, "Dang, look at these Christians. They're having orgies!" or some such. He wanted them to behave in a manner acceptable to the culture in which they were entrenched.
The mistake comes when we take words written to someone else and make it sound as if they were meant for everyone in every place. That's one of the dangers of literalism that we see, glaringly.
Knowing now in this day and age that homosexuality is a natural human condition, and having the wisdom and knowledge of God to understand that God is far beyond something that focuses on what people do with their privates in a consensual relationship, it's ridiculous to try to apply the words from that letter to the issue of SSM today.
Paul's words are directed at every believer, since every believers body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (obviously not only Corinthians), so we should not defile it by sexual immorality, which Jesus considers sinful.
Paul's words are directed at every believer, since every believers body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (obviously not only Corinthians), so we should not defile it by sexual immorality, which Jesus considers sinful.
Lol.
Satan quoted scripture too. I guess he's not the only forked-tongue preacher to do so.
Paul's words are directed at every believer, since every believers body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (obviously not only Corinthians), so we should not defile it by sexual immorality, which Jesus considers sinful.
The Spirit of life dwells within ALL living things, not just those who profess to be believers.
Paul's words are directed at every believer, since every believers body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (obviously not only Corinthians), so we should not defile it by sexual immorality, which Jesus considers sinful.
Is what you consider sexual immorality(including homosexuality) a crime against God? . You will not answer this because it proves jeffy was calling it a crime and you agreed with him.
LOL, this is true, but to be fair, look at the context. He's writing to a specific group of people, the church community in Corinth. Obviously he's not just saying this stuff to pull something out of his ass. There must have been rumours or actual incidents going on that prompted him to specifically write what he wrote.
The fledgling church did not need to have outsiders looking in and saying, "Dang, look at these Christians. They're having orgies!" or some such. He wanted them to behave in a manner acceptable to the culture in which they were entrenched.
The mistake comes when we take words written to someone else and make it sound as if they were meant for everyone in every place. That's one of the dangers of literalism that we see, glaringly.
Knowing now in this day and age that homosexuality is a natural human condition, and having the wisdom and knowledge of God to understand that God is far beyond something that focuses on what people do with their privates in a consensual relationship, it's ridiculous to try to apply the words from that letter to the issue of SSM today.
Agreed. However, as we have seen, numerous contributors here not only take it literally but actively promulgate it to justify their hate for anyone who is not like "them".
It's been asked before of you and others, but I have yet to see anyone answer: Why is harm the litmus test to determine right or wrong?
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
That is their own standard, not God's standard.
God's standard:
"Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own"
While 'fleeing from immorality' in general is not exactly bad advice it was not 'God' who quoted the above but Paul. Would someone please explain to me/us once and for all as to how Paul ever became the official mouthpiece for God?
Would someone also please explain exactly WHAT IS the 'sexual immorality' that Paul speaks of in the above 1 Corinthians 6:18 text? This is SO vague. Also remember that Paul is speaking to the fledgling Christian Church of Corinth and not we in 2019. And so, we need to ask, 'What WAS going on WITHIN the church' (and NOT outside the church) that prompted Paul to refer to this particular line in his letter? Hint: were some of these Corinthian folks involved in pagan idolatry? Please, be specific!
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber
People who set their own standards are basically saying they have no need for God.
I don't know what that means. However, it sounds rather like typical empty rhetoric to me.
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