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I am not mensa, but I would say he did wrong be his wife. But people like you believe this is exactly what he should do, minus the coming out part. You believe that a gay person should either be celibate their entire lives, or live a lie with a person of the opposite sex. If he had never felt the need to pretend in the first place, no one would have been hurt, but because of people like you, this happens more often than it should.
I don't know how his marriage ended. Apparently, it wasn't amicable, based on the fact that his son wouldn't speak to him or have any contact for many years. However, I would never be so rude as to ask him if he thought he did right by his wife. I wonder why something thinks about that but not if his wife did right by him. Very few divorces are one sided. I doubt that very many are 50-50 either. I have no idea what happened with my friend's marriage, and I would never be so presumptuous as to guess, or to ask him.
I didn't say there was no such thing as porn addiction, but I don't believe it turns straight people gay or causes a morally upright person to murder one hundred women. You're jumping to a different subject.
If watching porn caused a person to become a serial killer, there wouldn't be any people left in the southeastern United States.
It reminds me of somebody's repeated posts about lesbians having sex with men, as if that means they aren't really lesbians. This man fathered a child, yet he is, and was, a gay man.
I actually know a gay man who fathered a child many years ago.
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Or maybe he is just someone that got bored with hetorsexual sex and decided he wanted something different.
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You don't know the mind of a man. Or the impact that pornography and sex can have on it.
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Wait ... are you saying hetero men can start wanting to have sex with other men by watching other men have sex with women? Or are you saying that hetero men enjoy watching two men having sex and then start wanting to do so themselves? In either case, how why would you think that that can happen? ... unless it's happened to you?
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The Baptists statements were utterly absurd, irrational, and ignorantly spoken.
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I agree. I thought perhaps if he tried to answer the questions, he might see that for himself.
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Right. Because no man ever got bored with his wife and went looking for something different?
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We know it's addictive. We know that it changes a person's brain. We know that it can wreck marriages. Do some research.
I didn't say there was no such thing as porn addiction, but I don't believe it turns straight people gay or causes a morally upright person to murder one hundred women. You're jumping to a different subject.
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I think you're naive.
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If you feed your addictions, it will change you in the long run.
You should read his link from beginning to end:
"Everything is going to be bad in excess and it’s probably not terrible in moderation," Dr Gregory Tau of the Columbia University, said. "It is possible that there are individuals with a certain kind of brain that are more susceptible to these kinds of behaviors. Or, it’s possible it’s the excessive use (of porn) that’s perpetuating itself to causing brain changes. Or, it could be both."
And that's about the best summary we have ...but I suppose some of those test subjects became addicted? Apparently, it's the fundamentalists brain that gets addicted to porn (IMHO). And, they make some of the stupidest commentaries - that are utterly absurd, irrational, and ignorantly spoken.
If watching porn caused a person to become a serial killer, there wouldn't be any people left in the southeastern United States.
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In other words, the Bible Belt.
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Mensaguy,
wardendresden would be proud of this quote.
Lol.. yep, he would
I’m looking forward to the day when we can all agree with Romulus that the Hebrew Scriptures are talking about idolatrous practices of the worshippers in the temples of the nations, and that literal individuals were not in the firing line ...... along with women, slaves, etc who have been caught up in those pushing the religious Levitical Laws..... which the ROMANS took upon themselves as priests......... which Protestant Christianity has taken upon themselves as being the kings and priests
The Book of Leviticus (/lɪˈvɪtɪkəs/) is the third book of the Torah and of the Old Testament; scholars generally agree that it developed over a long period of time, reaching its present form during the Persian Period between 538-332 BCE.
Most of its chapters (1–7, 11–27) consist of God's speeches to Moses, which God commands Moses to repeat to the Israelites. This takes place within the story of the Israelites' Exodus after they escaped Egypt and reached Mt. Sinai (Exodus 19:1). The Book of Exodus narrates how Moses led the Israelites in building the Tabernacle (Exodus 35–40) with God's instructions (Exodus 25–31). Then in Leviticus, God tells the Israelites and their priests how to make offerings in the Tabernacle and how to conduct themselves while camped around the holy tent sanctuary. Leviticus takes place during the month or month-and-a-half between the completion of the Tabernacle (Exodus 40:17) and the Israelites' departure from Sinai (Numbers 1:1, 10:11).
The instructions of Leviticus emphasize ritual, legal and moral practices rather than beliefs. Nevertheless, they reflect the world view of the creation story in Genesis 1 that God wishes to live with humans. The book teaches that faithful performance of the sanctuary rituals can make that possible, so long as the people avoid sin and impurity whenever possible. The rituals, especially the sin and guilt offerings, provide the means to gain forgiveness for sins (Leviticus 4–5) and purification from impurities (Leviticus 11–16) so that God can continue to live in the Tabernacle in the midst of the people.[1]
I’m looking forward to the day when we can all agree with Romulus that the Hebrew Scriptures are talking about idolatrous practices of the worshippers in the temples of the nations, and that literal individuals were not in the firing line ...... along with women, slaves, etc who have been caught up in those pushing the religious Levitical Laws..... which the ROMANS took upon themselves as priests......... which Protestant Christianity has taken upon themselves as being the kings and priests
The Book of Leviticus (/lɪˈvɪtɪkəs/) is the third book of the Torah and of the Old Testament; scholars generally agree that it developed over a long period of time, reaching its present form during the Persian Period between 538-332 BCE.
Most of its chapters (1–7, 11–27) consist of God's speeches to Moses, which God commands Moses to repeat to the Israelites. This takes place within the story of the Israelites' Exodus after they escaped Egypt and reached Mt. Sinai (Exodus 19:1). The Book of Exodus narrates how Moses led the Israelites in building the Tabernacle (Exodus 35–40) with God's instructions (Exodus 25–31). Then in Leviticus, God tells the Israelites and their priests how to make offerings in the Tabernacle and how to conduct themselves while camped around the holy tent sanctuary. Leviticus takes place during the month or month-and-a-half between the completion of the Tabernacle (Exodus 40:17) and the Israelites' departure from Sinai (Numbers 1:1, 10:11).
The instructions of Leviticus emphasize ritual, legal and moral practices rather than beliefs. Nevertheless, they reflect the world view of the creation story in Genesis 1 that God wishes to live with humans. The book teaches that faithful performance of the sanctuary rituals can make that possible, so long as the people avoid sin and impurity whenever possible. The rituals, especially the sin and guilt offerings, provide the means to gain forgiveness for sins (Leviticus 4–5) and purification from impurities (Leviticus 11–16) so that God can continue to live in the Tabernacle in the midst of the people.[1]
I’m looking forward to the day when we can all agree with Romulus that the Hebrew Scriptures are talking about idolatrous practices of the worshipers in the temples of the nations, and that literal individuals were not in the firing line .....along with women, slaves, etc., who have been caught up in those pushing the religious Levitical Laws .....which the ROMANS took upon themselves as priests .....which Protestant Christianity has taken upon themselves as being the kings and priests.
Of course prisoners aren't temporarily gay. That's ridiculous. It's more likely that issues such as control and survival are in play in prison.
The correct term is situational homosexuality. Laud Humphreys published a book in the 80's on the issue of same-sex relationships in the prison environment. Quite an eye opening read... and yes, it is done for protection, or "any port in a storm".
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