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Old 10-21-2019, 07:14 AM
 
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I was just thinking, what's everyone's thoughts or feelings concerning the future of mankind? will humans live the way we live today forever, or will something better happen?
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:34 AM
 
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I was just thinking, what's everyone's thoughts or feelings concerning the future of mankind? will humans live the way we live today forever, or will something better happen?
Biblically speaking, the present earth and heavens will pass away to be replaced by new heavens and a new earth and God will dwell on the earth with regenerate mankind and all the enemies of God will have been destroyed and all unregenerate mankind will be confined to the lake of fire. See Revelation chapters 20-22 for that.

Secularly speaking, in about 5 billion years, the sun will lose its fuel and die. In its final stages it will expand and engulf the earth, destroying it. Before that happens however, the earth may have already lost all of its atmosphere. Of course, long before any of that, the earth could be hit by an asteroid large enough to cause an extinction level event.
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Old 10-21-2019, 08:49 AM
 
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If mankind realizes we are one people, sharing one planet -- and not 80-some nations carving it up into little, jealously-guarded pieces -- we may avoid destroying ourselves.

If we continue to behave like the short-sighted tribalists we have become, we are doomed. The planet may survive in some form but we won't.
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Old 10-21-2019, 10:29 AM
 
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I was just thinking, what's everyone's thoughts or feelings concerning the future of mankind? will humans live the way we live today forever, or will something better happen?
Scientist agree the sun will eventually swell up, and swallow the earth, so 'forever' is not happening. Of course that event still billions of years away, but the life on earth will end before that.
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:44 AM
 
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Biblically speaking, the present earth and heavens will pass away to be replaced by new heavens and a new earth and God will dwell on the earth with regenerate mankind and all the enemies of God will have been destroyed and all unregenerate mankind will be confined to the lake of fire. See Revelation chapters 20-22 for that.

Secularly speaking, in about 5 billion years, the sun will lose its fuel and die. In its final stages it will expand and engulf the earth, destroying it. Before that happens however, the earth may have already lost all of its atmosphere. Of course, long before any of that, the earth could be hit by an asteroid large enough to cause an extinction level event.
I see what you're saying, but you do know "Heavens" isn't referring to Jehovah God's dwelling place Heaven? it's Not referring to more Heavens. it could be referring to changes on the Earth ,(2Pet. 3:13 and Psa. 37:9-11). or represent Earthly rulership, or governments ,(Dan. 2:44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever).

in this case, The new heavens, is referring to a new government, one that'll rule over righteous new earth, (Rev. 5:10 And has made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth). Jehovah God will NOT destroy the Earth, as MANY believe from (2Pet.3:10 says "...the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up"). some bible versions uses words like ,"will vanish" and "laid bare." Rev. 21:1 does not say the world will burn up. both verses does NOT go hand in hand with the verses I posted above and below.

Earth will remain forever ,(Eccles. 1:4 One generation goes, and another generation comes; but the earth remains forever). during the Flood, he didn't destroy the Earth, only life. people, animal and plant life, the Earth remained. and he will NOT live on Earth with Humans, Heaven belong to him, he created Earth for mankind. if he wanted to live on Earth with human's, he would have done it at the beginning of human creation. he made Earth for humans to dwell, not for himself. and why would he leave Heaven, a place that was first his, to the Angels and Jesus?

at (Rev. 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God). it didn't mean God would be living among humans on Earth. ALL human's not just some, will worship the Almighty Jehovah God. it will soon be like he meant it from the beginning. peace
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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If mankind realizes we are one people, sharing one planet -- and not 80-some nations carving it up into little, jealously-guarded pieces -- we may avoid destroying ourselves.
If we continue to behave like the short-sighted tribalists we have become, we are doomed. The planet may survive in some form but we won't.
I agree, the planet will survive, but MANY of us won't ,(Matt. 5:5 Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth). and (Psa. 37:38 But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off).
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Old 10-21-2019, 11:54 AM
 
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Scientist agree the sun will eventually swell up, and swallow the earth, so 'forever' is not happening. Of course that event still billions of years away, but the life on earth will end before that.
but that's what imperfect man says. this is NOT what the God of Israel ,Jehovah says ,(Eccles. 1:4 One generation goes, and another generation comes; but the earth remains forever). the Earth will never destroyed by anything man claim. the sun will NOT "swallow the Earth", because Jehovah God is the one who placed the Sun right where he wanted it to be, for our safely. peace
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Old 10-21-2019, 12:45 PM
 
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but that's what imperfect man says. this is NOT what the God of Israel ,Jehovah says ,(Eccles. 1:4 One generation goes, and another generation comes; but the earth remains forever). the Earth will never destroyed by anything man claim. the sun will NOT "swallow the Earth", because Jehovah God is the one who placed the Sun right where he wanted it to be, for our safely. peace
Sure, generations come and go, but while the earth remains. It does not mean the earth wont be destroyed after all generations are gone.

The verse points out the fact that we live for a while, and then die. The human physical life is also compared to dew drop which exists in the morning, and is gone soon after. The chapter is called "Everything is meaningless".

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Old 10-21-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Sure, generations come and go, but while the earth remains. It does not mean the earth wont be destroyed after all generations are gone.

The verse points out the fact that we live for a while, and then die. The human life is also compared to dew drop which exists in the morning, and is gone soon after. The chapter is called "Everything is meaningless".
Thankfully we are more than human, I hope you know this for yourself.
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Old 10-21-2019, 01:10 PM
 
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I see what you're saying, but you do know "Heavens" isn't referring to Jehovah God's dwelling place Heaven? it's Not referring to more Heavens. it could be referring to changes on the Earth ,(2Pet. 3:13 and Psa. 37:9-11). or represent Earthly rulership, or governments ,(Dan. 2:44 And in the days of these kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed; and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand forever).

in this case, The new heavens, is referring to a new government, one that'll rule over righteous new earth, (Rev. 5:10 And has made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth). Jehovah God will NOT destroy the Earth, as MANY believe from (2Pet.3:10 says "...the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up"). some bible versions uses words like ,"will vanish" and "laid bare." Rev. 21:1 does not say the world will burn up. both verses does NOT go hand in hand with the verses I posted above and below.

Earth will remain forever ,(Eccles. 1:4 One generation goes, and another generation comes; but the earth remains forever). during the Flood, he didn't destroy the Earth, only life. people, animal and plant life, the Earth remained. and he will NOT live on Earth with Humans, Heaven belong to him, he created Earth for mankind. if he wanted to live on Earth with human's, he would have done it at the beginning of human creation. he made Earth for humans to dwell, not for himself. and why would he leave Heaven, a place that was first his, to the Angels and Jesus?

at (Rev. 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God). it didn't mean God would be living among humans on Earth. ALL human's not just some, will worship the Almighty Jehovah God. it will soon be like he meant it from the beginning. peace
At one time I did take it literally that the present universe in its entirety would be destroyed and then a new universe, including the earth would be recreated. I no longer think it has to be understood that way. The biblical writers did often use hyperbolic language. And of course I don't believe there was ever a literal global flood on the earth. Geological evidence does not support a global flood.


I do take Revelation chapter 21 as meaning that God will dwell among men on the earth, in the New Jerusalem, whether the New Jerusalem, having come down out of heaven will be on the earth or suspended above the earth.
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