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He was most likely a selfish person who could have cared less about others. He sees a beggar and ignores him.................
I also find at Luke 16:1 a certain 'rich man' mentioned beside the rich one at Luke 16:19.
The ' rich man ' of verse 19 is a composite man or the money-loving Pharisees of Luke 16:14.
This is why Jesus mentions in verses 16-18 about the law and the prophets because it pertained to those Pharisees.
Those rich and hate-filled Pharisees ignored the Lazarus beggar class of people, the humble people.
They only ate 'spiritual crumbs' from the teaching of the Pharisees.
Dead Abraham was ignorant of 'us' ( the people of Isaiah's time ) - see Isaiah 63:16.
This is because dead Abraham is still dead according to Hebrews chapter 11 ( verses 13 & 39 ) .
And why the ' future tense' is used at Acts 24:15 that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection......
Thus, chapter 16 of Luke, like Jesus other illustrations or parables are just that, and Not an actual happening.
Seems to me that hell enlarging itself in this line of scripture is evil and the number of participants of it, increase. This results in the need of the physical hell needing to grow?
Very interesting ^above^ because I suppose one could say that hell (grave) is evil.
Eve knew about the tree of knowledge of good and evil -> the evil according to Genesis 2:17 was: death.
Material/physical hell grows because each day more people die thus the grave (biblical hell) enlarges itself with physical people.
Matt.25:46
"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."...............
...and what is the eternal punishment for those haughty goats as found at Matthew 25:31-33,46 but destruction.
Destruction as found at 2nd Thess. 1:9 because the wicked will be: destroyed forever - Psalms 92:7; 104:35
Thus, in destruction the figurative goats ' go away ' - Matt. 25:46
Or ' be gone ' forever -> Psalm 37:9-11 and the humble meek (aka sheep) will inherit the Earth - Matthew 5:5
Seems to me that hell enlarging itself in this line of scripture is evil and the number of participants of it, increase.
This results in the need of the physical hell needing to grow?
Its talking about the outer Court of Gentiles and how the house of Israel became gentiles, thus enlarging the court when the house of Israel should have joined Judah to remain Israel.
Every scripture of hell is just about the outer court of Gentiles. While the court of Gentiles is not a part of the temple proper, the court and the temple proper became an ever expanding temple by the words of Ezekiel.
Nobody can build the temple of Ezekiel because it is an ever changing fluid expansion that is enlarged each day.
Isaiah is speaking of the house of Israel being the vineyard, and Judah is the vine. The fruit of the vine is the house of Israel that came out of the vine of Judah as wild grapes because they separated from Judah and Jerusalem and became Gentiles instead of true grapes of Judah.
Its talking about the outer Court of Gentiles and how the house of Israel became gentiles, thus enlarging the court when the house of Israel should have joined Judah to remain Israel.
Every scripture of hell is just about the outer court of Gentiles.....................................
If every Scripture of hell is just about the outer Court of Gentiles than dead Jesus was in the outer court of Gentiles_____
To me dead Jesus was Not in any court on the day he died rather in the tomb - Acts 2:27.
Jesus was in biblical hell the day he died.
Biblical hell comes to a final end according to Revelation 20:13-14
After everyone in biblical hell ( grave ) is ' delivered up' out of hell ( meaning resurrected out of the grave ) then emptied-out hell is cast empty into that symbolic ' second death ' for vacated hell.
Jesus has the keys to unlock biblical hell according to Revelation 1:18. Not keys to any Court of Gentiles
If every Scripture of hell is just about the outer Court of Gentiles than dead Jesus was in the outer court of Gentiles_____
To me dead Jesus was Not in any court on the day he died rather in the tomb - Acts 2:27.
Jesus was in biblical hell the day he died.
Biblical hell comes to a final end according to Revelation 20:13-14
After everyone in biblical hell ( grave ) is ' delivered up' out of hell ( meaning resurrected out of the grave ) then emptied-out hell is cast empty into that symbolic ' second death ' for vacated hell.
Jesus has the keys to unlock biblical hell according to Revelation 1:18. Not keys to any Court of Gentiles
You think hell is a real place that tortures people for eternity.
I do not, and again, all those scriptures are speaking of the court, unfortunately, not many people study the design of the temple to even have an opinion.
The design of the temple is there to teach us what the afterlife is, and there areb3 sections.
[Those people in hell are the same people not allowed in the temple, and not allowed in the city, but they are still just outside the city and not being tortured.
Same people who burn when the works of all men are tested by fire, even the least are saved but only as one who goes through a fire.
Same people who go to recline with Abraham in the Zoe kingdom but then are escorted out of the Zoe kingdom.
The same people Jesus sends to the outer court of darkness and the outer court of darkness has always been known to be the court of Gentiles.
Christian's sent to outer darkness for being lawless.
Hebrews 8
Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.
There are more example of where the lawless are sent, that should be enough.
If every Scripture of hell is just about the outer Court of Gentiles than dead Jesus was in the outer court of Gentiles_____
To me dead Jesus was Not in any court on the day he died rather in the tomb - Acts 2:27.
Jesus was in biblical hell the day he died.
Biblical hell comes to a final end according to Revelation 20:13-14
After everyone in biblical hell ( grave ) is ' delivered up' out of hell ( meaning resurrected out of the grave ) then emptied-out hell is cast empty into that symbolic ' second death ' for vacated hell.
Jesus has the keys to unlock biblical hell according to Revelation 1:18. Not keys to any Court of Gentiles
I believe Hanny is right, the outer court experience is a death and hell experience because it fall shorts of the holy of holies experience which is what we lost and are lost from, but the reality is, the holy of holies is ours by divine right. God is not keeping anyone out of the holy of holies experience, we keep ourselves out of it by thinking and believing from an alienated mind which operates from separation from God, which the naturally minded man cannot help but think.
We all approach the Tabernacle the same way by walking through the broad veil into the brazen court. It IS a progressive walk where everything increases in value as you progress from brass to silver and to gold.
There is life even in the broad way standing in the court because of the brazen alter of burnt sacrifices, it is salvation, but only mere salvation.
There is a huge sign in the court that reads," No Gentiles past this point.:
Gentiles are standing in the way, but what they need is the truth that is found through the second veil into " The holy place." Inside the holy place is standing before the throne of God where there is 12 loaves of bread that are consumed each week, and this by the extreme light of God lighting up that bread. The alter of innocence is there that your prayers are sent to God in the smoke.
THIS is what the alter of incense says
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
No man cometh to the father, but by me.
THIS IS the alter of incense speaking because no man may even try and enter through the narrow way unless they first offer their prayers/incense to give unto the alter, and it is the alter that offers the prayers.
The incense is lit, and you bow yourself low before the alter as it speaks. For 30 minutes the alter is speaking, and thus, there is 30 min of silence in heaven until all incense burns.
The narrow way is obvious, in the holy place you are looking at a room with no door, and it is a 400 pound veil, and so how does one get into the holy of holies unless they squeeze through the side with the weight of the veil pushing against them, or was it that they crawled underneath it?
Each step is a progression, and while the veil was ripped in two, a Gentile still has no access.
It is only through a new birth that would allow Gentiles entrance, and while Gentiles became Israel in the beginning, they no longer have interest.
When that veil was ripped in two, it was a consummation. Everything is still the same, it is the way of a young man and a maiden, only one way in.
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You think hell is a real place that tortures people for eternity...............................
There are more example of where the lawless are sent, that should be enough.
Wrong, BIG time wrong, because the Bible teaches the dead know nothing - Ecclesiastes 9:5; Isaiah 38:18; Psalm 115:17.
Biblical hell ( the grave for the dead who know nothing ) comes to a final end according to Rev. 20:13-14
No one is left in the grave because everyone in biblical hell (gravedom) is " Delivered Up ".
Delivered up means: resurrected out of hell / grave.
Then, emptied-out hell is cast vacant into that symbolic ' second death ' for vacated biblical hell/ grave.
So, in Scripture there is No real place that tortures people forever, for eternity, rather torture is a religious lie.
The un-repentant lawless are the wicked who are 'destroyed forever ' - Psalm 92:7; Psalm 104:35
The choice is ' repent ' if one does Not want to ' perish ' ( perish as in meaning: destroyed forever ) - 2nd Peter 3:9
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