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Old 03-02-2021, 08:52 PM
 
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And human beings got rid of slavery, right?
Humans still own humans in parts of the world. So the answer is no.



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The less sexual partners one has, the lower chance of avoiding disease and heartache, no?
What does that have to do with morality of sexual purity?
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Old 03-02-2021, 09:13 PM
 
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Humans still own humans in parts of the world. So the answer is no.





What does that have to do with morality of sexual purity?
Then why did some get rid of slavery?

Sexual purity is part of Christian teaching that is different from the mainstream, which is what you asked for, no?
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Old 03-02-2021, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Eh?...So, I should have multiple sex partners to have a higher chance of avoiding disease and heartache?...
Poor Jimmy, You know what he meant, there is a higher chance with the lesser number of sexual partners avoiding disease than there is a lower chance that they will.
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Old 03-02-2021, 09:28 PM
 
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The main reason Christianity split into thousands of shards is because of the forced marriage between the old and new testaments.

BIG boo-boo.
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Old 03-03-2021, 06:12 AM
 
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Im reading The Case For Christ and he makes some very compelling arguments for why the Jesus of the bible is a historical figure and that the Gospels are written accurately with a legitimate interest in correctly telling the story of the life and death of Jesus.

So with that in mind, if the NT overrides the laws of the OT and created a new religion, what was the OT based on? Not historical record as there is very little from the OT that is verifiable. So is it hyperbole? Myths to teach lessons like a fairy tale or tall tale book (think Aesops fables)? Oral stories that were committed to print?



The theme of the Bible is the vindication of Jehovah's sovereignty and the fulfillment of His purpose for the earth by means of His Kingdom under Christ, the promised offspring. It is continual, and the "NT" was a different covenant, and advancement of Jehovah's purpose for His people.
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Old 03-03-2021, 08:10 AM
 
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From my understanding from having spoke to orthodox Jews and to Catholics and to fundamentalists that in the new covenant of the NT, Jesus fulfilled the old laws of orthodox Judaism. Things such as not mixing fabrics or eating shellfish or meat and dairy together or observing the Shabbat. When Jesus died on the cross to absolve the world of its sins, it meant that God was acknowledging that his creation was sinful and that it was impossible to be without sin and therefore they needed a savior in order to make a path to the kingdom of Heaven.

So the Jews who (depending on who you talk to) believe that Jesus was either just a man or a prophet but not the messiah that the Torah/Old Testament tells is coming, hold the old covenants (in varying degrees) because they dont believe a savior has come to absolve them of their sin.

There seems to be so many sects of Christianity that take parts here and there to follow but if it was as cut and dried as some people say it is, then it would be Christianity, just Christianity (or Catholic as St Peter founded the church and built upon it), not Anglican, Lutheran, Pentecostal, Baptist etc etc.

Based on what I have seen/read, Catholic WOULD be the most Christlike version of the church as supposedly the 12 apostles with St Peter at it head created the home of the Catholic church followed the orders of Christ, however the corruption in the church really disturbs that role. I guess no man is truly without sin except Jesus when he wept on the cross and gave himself to the Lord while carrying the sins of the world.

Based on what i understand about the OT and what has been written here, it seems the OT is a compilation of stories and faebles which teach based on the limited world view. Take the flood for example, it probably happened, there is some historical evidence. However it was most certainly localized and not a worldwide event.

Additionally speaking on the inaccuracy of John I or Paul or the lack of "eyewitness" accounts, I agree with the book in saying that in history we accept accounts of events that were penned hundreds of years after an event as a true telling and yet we are unable to agree that something written 50 or 60 years after the resurrection is an accurate telling simply because its telling of a "supernatural" event or a miracle.
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Old 03-03-2021, 02:08 PM
 
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Then why did some get rid of slavery?

Sexual purity is part of Christian teaching that is different from the mainstream, which is what you asked for, no?
DEFINE sexual purity, because I can guarantee you that not all Christians will agree with what it means. And even less practice whatever their branch preaches.
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Old 03-03-2021, 02:26 PM
 
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Default If the New Testament is written accurately, whats the deal with the old testament

The schism has always been apparent to me, but I had no explanation until discovering the insights of the Kabbalah. The OT was targeted to the schoolmaster stage of the more carnal minds of our primitive ancestors and its proscriptions about developing self-discipline still apply. The NT is interpreted from the spiritual perspective of the more advanced Jewish Mystics as they tried to translate the "carnal milk" into "spiritual solid food" by explaining why self-discipline is important and to apply it motivated by agape love. The carnal motivations are not eliminated because we still have to progress spiritually beyond their need before the spiritual ones will make any sense.
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Old 03-03-2021, 02:27 PM
 
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DEFINE sexual purity, because I can guarantee you that not all Christians will agree with what it means. And even less practice whatever their branch preaches.
I did, in post #17.
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Old 03-03-2021, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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The theme of the Bible is the vindication of Jehovah's sovereignty and the fulfillment of His purpose for the earth by means of His Kingdom under Christ, the promised offspring. It is continual, and the "NT" was a different covenant, and advancement of Jehovah's purpose for His people.
Vindication or retaliation? For the advancement of the Jehovah Witnesses? Now, that's just ignorant.
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