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This is false equivalence, as the Hebrews and the gentiles were not on equal footing. In no sense could the
Old Testament gentiles be said to be "children of God".
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What conceivable purpose could killing an innocent animal serve?
What conceivable purpose could killing an innocent animal serve?
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This is false equivalence, as the Hebrews and the gentiles were not on equal footing. In no sense could the Old Testament gentiles be said to be "children of God".
We believe in a very different God, Mike. Such capriciousness and favoritism among His offspring are unimaginable to me. That it is acceptable to you is troubling.
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Caloric intake, for one.
I assumed you would provide a serious answer. My mistake!
We believe in a very different God, Mike. Such capriciousness and favoritism among His offspring are unimaginable to me. That it is acceptable to you is troubling.
There's nothing capricious about it. Also, humans are not God's offspring. Like begets like, and we are not gods. We are His creation. Just as circumcision was the sign of entrance into God's old covenant community, now it is through baptism that we become His adopted sons.
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What conceivable purpose could killing an innocent animal serve?
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Originally Posted by EscAlaMike
Caloric intake, for one.
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Originally Posted by MysticPhD
I assumed you would provide a serious answer. My mistake!
This goes to the whole concept of sacrifice, and why it is right and just for humans to offer sacrifice to God. A sacrifice that costs us nothing is no sacrifice at all. Animals have (especially in the ancient world) real value. To offer the source of our sustenance to God as a sacrifice is to give Him something of real, tangible value. The purpose is mainly to rightly order ourselves before God - to understand our proper place in creation, and to publicly and tangibly acknowledge that everything we have comes from and belongs to God.
There's nothing capricious about it. Also, humans are not God's offspring. Like begets like, and we are not gods. We are His creation. Just as circumcision was the sign of entrance into God's old covenant community, now it is through baptism that we become His adopted sons.
This goes to the whole concept of sacrifice, and why it is right and just for humans to offer sacrifice to God. A sacrifice that costs us nothing is no sacrifice at all. Animals have (especially in the ancient world) real value. To offer the source of our sustenance to God as a sacrifice is to give Him something of real, tangible value. The purpose is mainly to rightly order ourselves before God - to understand our proper place in creation, and to publicly and tangibly acknowledge that everything we have comes from and belongs to God.
I would not have expected our perspectives to be so completely at variance as they are. I do not resonate with ANY of your perspectives about God. The God I encountered has NONE of the characteristics you seem to ascribe to Him. It is very troubling. That is an awful way to see yourself and your relationship with God, IMO. Peace.
There's nothing capricious about it. Also, humans are not God's offspring. Like begets like, and we are not gods. We are His creation. Just as circumcision was the sign of entrance into God's old covenant community, now it is through baptism that we become His adopted sons.
This goes to the whole concept of sacrifice, and why it is right and just for humans to offer sacrifice to God. A sacrifice that costs us nothing is no sacrifice at all. Animals have (especially in the ancient world) real value. To offer the source of our sustenance to God as a sacrifice is to give Him something of real, tangible value. The purpose is mainly to rightly order ourselves before God - to understand our proper place in creation, and to publicly and tangibly acknowledge that everything we have comes from and belongs to God.
We're made in the very image of God, how can you say humans are not God's offspring? He breathes life into each human at birth. We even judge the angels as well. In regard to sacrifices...Do you think God enjoyed when that innocent animal was slaughtered , not out of necessity or food? Ask a farmer if any of his animals have personalities. Not trying to sound naive but why would God need a dead animal? He does not need penance from mankind, only mercy is required.
Hosea 6:6
For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.
We're made in the very image of God, how can you say humans are not God's offspring?
Because we're literally not. I am the offspring of my human mother and father.
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