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The preaching of the Cross is indeed foolishness to those who are perishing (1 Corinthians 1:18,21)...
I leave you to your opinion.
Read prov 8--Gods master worker--tells you God created him. Tells you,you need to listen to him. God became especially fond of him, No other deserves that title-master worker except the one whom God created all other things through. He is-the firstborn of all creation-Coll1:15-Gods image-not God.
Read prov 8--Gods master worker--tells you God created him. Tells you,you need to listen to him. God became especially fond of him, No other deserves that title-master worker except the one whom God created all other things through. He is-the firstborn of all creation-Coll1:15-Gods image-not God.
Concerning Proverbs 8, verse 23 tells us that wisdom is set up "from everlasting".
And concerning Colossians 1:15, what do you make of the context?
"In Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily"
"In Him all things consist."
"all things were created by Him."
That last one is such a doozy that your trusted NeWT has to add a word ("other") that isn't in the original Greek.
Consider what it says in Isaiah 44:24...
Isa 44:24, Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
................Consider what it says in Isaiah 44:24... Isa 44:24, Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
As with Psalm 110 LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stands for the Tetragrammaton YHWH.
The other Lord, in some lower-case letters, stands for Lord Jesus.
Psalm 90:2 says God is from everlasting meaning: No beginning for God.
Whereas, pre-human Jesus was "IN" the beginning but Not 'before' the beginning as his God was 'before' the beginning.
This is why John could write that No man has seen God at any time, but people saw Jesus and lived.
Or, as John wrote at Rev. 3:14 B that pre-human Jesus was the beginning of the creation by God.
Once pre-human heavenly Jesus was created then all things come through heavenly Jesus.
This is why God said to pre-human Jesus 'let 'us' make man in our image' ( 'our' is plural - Gen. 1:26 )
Concerning Proverbs 8, verse 23 tells us that wisdom is set up "from everlasting".
And concerning Colossians 1:15, what do you make of the context?
"In Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily"
"In Him all things consist."
"all things were created by Him."
That last one is such a doozy that your trusted NeWT has to add a word ("other") that isn't in the original Greek.
Consider what it says in Isaiah 44:24...
Isa 44:24, Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
He tells you he was created so the word other obviously does belong there. Jesus became wisdom-1Cor 1:30
Catholicism mistranslated many errors in to fit their false god creation at one of the councils. The majority on earth trying to serve God knows that religion is false. Their bloodguilt alone has amassed to heaven. Yet you all refuse to believe they translated errors in to fit false council teachings. If Jesus wasnt with that religion, you know darn well satan was and is. He made Gods chosen in the OT fall over and over-he is powerful, the god of this system of things-2Cor 4:4
Coll 1:15--The firstborn of all creation--any who understand english knows 100% all creation means at the very beginning. He is Gods image--An image is never the real thing.
As with Psalm 110 LORD in ALL Upper-Case letters stands for the Tetragrammaton YHWH.
The other Lord, in some lower-case letters, stands for Lord Jesus.
Psalm 90:2 says God is from everlasting meaning: No beginning for God.
Whereas, pre-human Jesus was "IN" the beginning but Not 'before' the beginning as his God was 'before' the beginning.
This is why John could write that No man has seen God at any time, but people saw Jesus and lived.
Or, as John wrote at Rev. 3:14 B that pre-human Jesus was the beginning of the creation by God.
Once pre-human heavenly Jesus was created then all things come through heavenly Jesus.
This is why God said to pre-human Jesus 'let 'us' make man in our image' ( 'our' is plural - Gen. 1:26 )
There is one Lord (spelled not as "LORD" but as "Lord") (Ephesians 4:5); even the Father (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, 2 Corinthians 6:17-18).
Yet, no one can say that Jesus is the Lord except by the Spirit of truth (1 Corinthians 12:3 (kjv)).
And, Jesus is the one Lord of holy scripture (1 Corinthians 8:6).
I conclude that Jesus and the Father are the same Lord (1 Corinthians 12:5, 2 Corinthians 8:19).
Question:
In light of Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, and 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 (please look them up),
Can you confess that Jesus is the Lord?
(I await your answer)...
If you cannot, then you do not have the Holy Ghost (1 Corinthians 12:3 (kjv))...
And therefore do not belong to Christ (Romans 8:9).
Yes; Jehovah has a Maker (Isaiah 45:11, Romans 1:3).
Last edited by justbyfaith; 02-07-2022 at 10:39 PM..
He tells you he was created so the word other obviously does belong there. Jesus became wisdom-1Cor 1:30
Catholicism mistranslated many errors in to fit their false god creation at one of the councils. The majority on earth trying to serve God knows that religion is false. Their bloodguilt alone has amassed to heaven. Yet you all refuse to believe they translated errors in to fit false council teachings. If Jesus wasnt with that religion, you know darn well satan was and is. He made Gods chosen in the OT fall over and over-he is powerful, the god of this system of things-2Cor 4:4
Coll 1:15--The firstborn of all creation--any who understand english knows 100% all creation means at the very beginning. He is Gods image--An image is never the real thing.
Jesus was created in His humanity; not in His Deity.
Jesus was created in His humanity; not in His Deity.
If only you understood that this is what saved humanity, JBF, you would be an awesome evangel of Christ instead of the Bible. God became HUMAN and brought His Holy Spirit to His HUMAN Spirit connecting ALL human Spirits with God permanently!!! He abides with us in His HUMAN Spirit form as the Comforter to guide us to the Truth God has now "written in our hearts" with His agape love. You call it our conscience. Sadly, too few seem to listen to Him.
the term all creation proves your error. The firstborn of all creation.
How so?
I believe that the fact that He is the firstborn of all creation merely speaks of His preeminence.
For David and Ephraim were both said to be "firstborns" from God's perspective; yet neither one of them were the first people born into their families to their mother and father.
There is one Lord (spelled not as "LORD" but as "Lord") (Ephesians 4:5); even the Father (Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, 2 Corinthians 6:17-18).
Yet, no one can say that Jesus is the Lord except by the Spirit of truth (1 Corinthians 12:3 (kjv)).
And, Jesus is the one Lord of holy scripture (1 Corinthians 8:6).
I conclude that Jesus and the Father are the same Lord (1 Corinthians 12:5, 2 Corinthians 8:19).
Question:
In light of Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, and 2 Corinthians 6:17-18 (please look them up),
Can you confess that Jesus is the Lord? (I await your answer)...
If you cannot, then you do not have the Holy Ghost (1 Corinthians 12:3 (kjv))...
And therefore do not belong to Christ (Romans 8:9).
Yes; Jehovah has a Maker (Isaiah 45:11, Romans 1:3).
In the 'King James version' at Psalm 110 there are two (2) LORD/Lord's mentioned.
The LORD in ALL capital letters stands for LORD God ( Tetragrammaton YHWH originally appears)
The other Lord stands for Lord Jesus - No Tetragrammaton applied.
1st Cor 12:4-6,11 is talking about a variety of administrations or activities by the same God.
2nd Cor.8:19 for the glory of the Lord ( No Tetragrammaton applied there )
Yes, Jesus is Lord, but Jesus is Not the King James LORD of Psalm 110.
Jesus is Not both the King James LORD and the other Lord of Psalm 110.
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