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Why are you specifying KJV? Do you think that is the only real inspired version?
I had a thread asking about the KJV prevalence even in our modern times with better, more accurate versions.
As an example, my sister is a PhD linguist and has translated the Bible into Quechua. You can bet they did not start with the KVJ. They went directly from Greek and Hebrew, and translated into the common vernacular of the people.
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Originally Posted by pneuma
JBF believes only the kjv is infallible unadulterated word of God and he hates the original languages
He has no interest in learning or questioning what it is that he has actually been taught to believe.
And will not accept the fact that the King James has a multitude of linguistical errors and alterations.
Apparently, he speaks only English and doesn't see the point in comprehending other languages.
That is the point. God does not want vengeance, period! WE exact vengeance. God does not. That is why He does not want us to seek it. He "repays" with true justice. We will reap EXACTLY whatever we sow, EXACTLY, no more and no less. But it is self-inflicted consequences, NOT a punishment imposed by God. Besides, God can do what we cannot, balance the scales for the victims of evil as well.
“ Souls that are imperfect but not irredeemable go through a cleansing purgatory, while truly evil souls are permanently destroyed — at least according to one interpretation. But the afterlife has never really been a focus of Judaism. While such beliefs may provide some hope to people that there is cosmic justice overall, Judaism doesn’t really view these views as helpful with regards to one’s own individual behavior; one’s behavior should not be out of a fear of hell, but because we value doing what is right in and of itself, because of our love for others, for parents, for family, for community, and for God — not because of the afterlife. Although the behavior is more important than the underlying motivation, doing good only in order to avoid hell and not because of an intrinsic desire to do the right thing, to act justly, to create a better society, etc. suggests a bad motivation.” - https://www.bing.com/fd/ls/GLinkPing...WlzLW5vLWhlbGw
And to add to that, Noach, Avraham, Moishe, etc....
And this:
“ Although the behavior is more important than the underlying motivation, doing good only in order to avoid hell and not because of an intrinsic desire to do the right thing, to act justly, to create a better society, etc. suggests a bad motivation”” - I see a most Christians being Christians because of a desire not to go to hell...
Ecc 12:13, Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14, For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Every work being brought to judgment indicates an afterlife in which there will be eternal reward for things done in the body (whether good or bad).
This is mentioned in Ecclesiastes which is primarily a text of Judaism.
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Originally Posted by Sand&Salt
Why are you specifying KJV? Do you think that is the only real inspired version?
I had a thread asking about the KJV prevalence even in our modern times with better, more accurate versions.
As an example, my sister is a PhD linguist and has translated the Bible into Quechua. You can bet they did not start with the KVJ. They went directly from Greek and Hebrew, and translated into the common vernacular of the people.
If she translated it out of the Received Text (from which we get the kjv), then all is well.
However, the Alexandrian text omits words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, even entire passages from the pages of holy scripture; and therefore those who follow such translations are in spiritual danger (see Revelation 22:18-19).
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Originally Posted by pneuma
JBF believes only the kjv is infallible unadulterated word of God and he hates the original languages
I never said that I hated the original languages. I believe that looking at them can be useful.
However, my contention is that the common people, who receive Jesus gladly, read the Bible in their own language while the educated scribes and Pharisees, who rejected Jesus, are likened unto the Greek and Hebrew scholar of today who makes strifes over words (1 Timothy 6:4, 2 Timothy 2:14) to no profit and to the subverting of the hearers.
Ecc 12:13, Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14, For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Every work being brought to judgment indicates an afterlife in which there will be eternal reward for things done in the body (whether good or bad).
This is mentioned in Ecclesiastes which is primarily a text of Judaism.
If she translated it out of the Received Text (from which we get the kjv), then all is well.
However, the Alexandrian text omits words, phrases, sentences, paragraphs, even entire passages from the pages of holy scripture; and therefore those who follow such translations are in spiritual danger (see Revelation 22:18-19).
I never said that I hated the original languages. I believe that looking at them can be useful.
However, my contention is that the common people, who receive Jesus gladly, read the Bible in their own language while the educated scribes and Pharisees, who rejected Jesus, are likened unto the Greek and Hebrew scholar of today who makes strifes over words (1 Timothy 6:4, 2 Timothy 2:14) to no profit and to the subverting of the hearers.
yup and that was the Hebrew and Greek, NOT English
Ecc 12:13, Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecc 12:14, For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
Every work being brought to judgment indicates an afterlife in which there will be eternal reward for things done in the body (whether good or bad).
This is mentioned in Ecclesiastes which is primarily a text of Judaism.
And your point is?...
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