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Old 07-18-2021, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Oh for Pete's sake, Meerkat. The man thinks he is the Son of Man sent directly from God. Give me a break!
It's that God complex that comes up quite often in his posts.
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Old 07-18-2021, 04:46 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Oh for Pete's sake, Meerkat. The man thinks he is the Son of Man sent directly from God. Give me a break!
He does not think he is literally the only son of man


He is using Scripture the same as all “men” use Scripture, picking, choosing, interpreting, translating, etc

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Old 07-18-2021, 04:56 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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I was handed a tract a few moments ago at my front door, it said:


FIRST, YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE A SINNER.

SECOND, YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT AS A SINNER YOU OWE A PENALTY.

THIRD, YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT JESUS CHRIST HAS ALREADY PAID YOUR SIN DEBT.

FOURTH, YOU MUST ACCEPT BY FAITH WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID FOR YOU.


In other words, YOU MUST ACCEPT whatever you are told!
Any thoughts on the idea that YOU MUST ACCEPT this or that?

(The man had his two daughters with him who were around 6-8 years of age).
The basic problem is mixing/confusing the personal, individual, with the collective

The collective has sinned/erred from their “calling” and Jesus was sent to unify those sinners/transgressors into one “body”

Gal 3:27**For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28**There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29**And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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Old 07-18-2021, 10:01 PM
 
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Oh for Pete's sake, Meerkat. The man thinks he is the Son of Man sent directly from God. Give me a break!
There were prophets before whom were rejected. Why do you think there haven’t been any recently?

God left us to our own devices until someone did as He instructed.

Sorry to have done it but I was guided to the Son as I grew in wisdom and understanding. You just want to be a big shot but I was trying to find the truth.

Your error is not believing in God’s only son, the prophets.

“When the lion roars who will not fear it. When the LORD God speaks who will not prophecy.”
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Old 07-18-2021, 11:49 PM
 
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You are far from being righteous, if you believe your doctrines are the end-all-of one's understanding.
I am justified ("declared righteous") through the shed blood of Jesus Christ (Romans 3:25, Romans 5:1, Romans 5:9).
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Old 07-19-2021, 07:43 AM
 
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I am justified ("declared righteous") through the shed blood of Jesus Christ (Romans 3:25, Romans 5:1, Romans 5:9).
We are ALL declared righteous because of the Faith and agape love of Jesus who loves us all. He loved even His torturers and murderers, while His blood was being shed by our ignorant and brutally savage ancestors. "Father forgive them, they do not know what they do." Is that the kind of agape love you received from whatever "sealed" your barbaric beliefs?
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Old 07-19-2021, 12:10 PM
 
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We are ALL declared righteous because of the Faith and agape love of Jesus who loves us all. He loved even His torturers and murderers, while His blood was being shed by our ignorant and brutally savage ancestors. "Father forgive them, they do not know what they do." Is that the kind of agape love you received from whatever "sealed" your barbaric beliefs?
It is the actual blood of Jesus that justifies a man (Romans 3:25, Romans 5:9).
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Old 07-19-2021, 12:19 PM
 
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I am justified ("declared righteous") through the shed blood of Jesus Christ (Romans 3:25, Romans 5:1, Romans 5:9).
Yes, a person is 'declared righteous' (1st John 1:7) " if " one walks in the light.... and faith in Jesus' blood - Romans 3:25
God forgiving past sins by ransom through Jesus' blood - Ephesians 1:7
Remembering if need be also to forgive one's self ( accepting Jesus' ransom at face value - Matthew 20:28 )
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Old 07-19-2021, 12:27 PM
 
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We are ALL declared righteous because of the Faith and agape love of Jesus who loves us all. He loved even His torturers and murderers, while His blood was being shed by our ignorant and brutally savage ancestors. "Father forgive them, they do not know what they do." Is that the kind of agape love you received from whatever "sealed" your barbaric beliefs?
Yes, in Jesus speaking about the Roman soldiers (who were just doing their job) he asked his Father to forgive them.

We can be declared righteous "IF" we are walking in light.... as per 1st John 1:7.
This is why Matthew 20:28 says Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say all.
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Old 07-19-2021, 01:08 PM
 
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It is the actual blood of Jesus that justifies a man (Romans 3:25, Romans 5:9).
I would abhor a God who required a blood sacrifice to forgive me or love me, period!!! That is NOT God that is a Godfather making an offer you better not refuse, OR ELSE!!!! Totally worthless.IMO!
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