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Originally Posted by Arach Angle
sure, they have some of the traits of god wrong. No big deal. Until we start telling others what to do that is.
Its not if there is or is not "god", its more about getting what we experience more reliable. What are the traits.
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I agree
There are different levels referred to in Scripture but they are not all visible or perceptible to our mortal/limited/individual/natural senses that are geared toward survival, generation, comfort, wellbeing, etc
Joh 3:10**Jesus answered and said unto him,
Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
Joh 3:11**Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
Joh 3:12**If I have told you
earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of
heavenly things?
Joh 3:13**And no man hath ascended
up to heaven, but he that
came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
Joh 3:14**And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
Joh 3:15**That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Hmmm, just noticed the layering here
G1919***(Strong)
ἐπίγειος
epigeios
ep-ig'-i-os
From G1909 and G1093; worldly (physically or morally): - earthly, in earth,
terrestrial.
G2032***(Strong)
ἐπουράνιος
epouranios
ep-oo-ran'-ee-os
From G1909 and G3772;
above the sky: - celestial, (in) heaven (-ly), high.
G3772***(Strong)
οὐρανός
ouranos
oo-ran-os'
Perhaps from the same as G3735 (through the idea of elevation);
the sky; by extension heaven (as the abode of God); by implication happiness, power, eternity; specifically the Gospel (Christianity): - air, heaven ([-ly]), sky.
The heavenly (celestial) is higher than the heaven/sky where the throne of God is said to be
And the heaven/earth passes away and there are new heaven/earth that are instituted
And the earthly is an (epi) as well over a lower region - G1909***(Strong)
ἐπί
epi
ep-ee'
A primary preposition properly meaning
superimposition (of time, place, order, etc.), as a relation of distribution [with the genitive case], that is, over, upon, etc.;
G1093***(Strong)
γῆ
gē
ghay
Contracted from a primary word;
soil; by extension a region, or the solid part or the whole of the terrene globe (including the occupants in each application): - country, earth (-ly), ground, land, world.
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