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Old 09-10-2021, 03:20 AM
 
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The Lord said ``I call heaven and earth to record against you, that I have set before you like and death, blessing and cursing, there choose life, that both you and your seed may live `` Deut. 30;19 ... The Lord left on the earth the dark spirits which are legal fanatics and will see wickedness and support it and bring it down, where resisting these and the power of Christ can stop it ..... Then there are people who go against the plan of God where the wrath of God could come in a subtle way, like greedy people go broke, for example some leaders of a nation could ignore the people and spend all the wealth ... Was the judgment of God for many selfish nations ...... God don't hurt people through Christ by making them sick but the dark spirit are
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Old 09-10-2021, 05:58 AM
 
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I'm wondering...been wondering this for a while: (to those of you of the Christian faith) from your understanding of scripture, does God punish some of his children on earth, perhaps for sins we have committed?

The Bible indicates He does not Kav. James 1:13-15. He also does not protect us from reaping what we sow as well Gal 6:7. Many people do feel that He does however so I understand the great question.
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Old 09-10-2021, 07:34 AM
 
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Do you think He would allow mental health issues, or for catastrophic loss, or other calamities for sins a person has committed?
similar to Michael Way's answer, I could also see a case where He could do so to also preemptively PREVENT one from committing further transgressions that would stack up against the individual, and especially if they might greatly/wrongly affect others that He already has different plans for.
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Old 09-10-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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Do you think He would allow mental health issues, or for catastrophic loss, or other calamities for sins a person has committed?
How on Earth could anyone here know the answer? You only need to know God is perfect, His plan still executing to the letter and give thanks. I found the most powerful force against health issues is praise. Do it even if you don't feel like it.
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:29 AM
 
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I'm wondering...been wondering this for a while: (to those of you of the Christian faith) from your understanding of scripture, does God punish some of his children on earth, perhaps for sins we have committed?
he did in the days of old and he does now. when Jehovah God ,(Exo. 6:3 and I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them), people disobey him they are punished. the Israelites were punish many times. because they constantly turn their backs on Jehovah. worshipping false god, see

(Ezek. 6:1-7 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face toward the mountains of Israel, and prophesy against them, 3 and say, You mountains of Israel, hear the word of the Lord God; Thus said the Lord God to the mountains, and to the hills, to the rivers, and to the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy your high places. And your altars shall be desolate, and your images shall be broken: and I will cast down your slain men before your idols. And I will lay the dead carcasses of the children of Israel before their idols; and I will scatter your bones round about your altars. In all your dwelling places the cities shall be laid waste, and the high places shall be desolate; that your altars may be laid waste and made desolate, and your idols may be broken and cease, and your images may be cut down, and your works may be abolished. And the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and you shall know that I am the Lord).

or marry those who refuse to worship him. King Solomon was a true Man of God, and was blessed. but he later disobeyed Jehovah by marrying women who worship false gods ,(1Kg. 11: 1,2 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; of the nations concerning which the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love). he was Punished ,(verses 9-13 "And the Lord was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the Lord God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice").

he does this NOT because he hates us, but to teach us a lesson, to NOT be disobedient, (Pro. 3:11,12 My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor detest His correction; For whom the Lord loves He corrects, Just as a father the son in whom he delights), see also (Heb. 12:6). we that have children at times punish them for their wrong acts. it doesn't mean we don't love them. peace
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Old 09-10-2021, 08:31 AM
 
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similar to Michael Way's answer, I could also see a case where He could do so to also preemptively PREVENT one from committing further transgressions that would stack up against the individual, and especially if they might greatly/wrongly affect others that He already has different plans for.
then he sure screwed up with Hitler.
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Old 09-10-2021, 10:43 AM
 
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You may, or may not reap what you have sown, while in this life.
So, exactly when does this divine discipline or correction begin?
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If not in this life, then in the next one (Galatians 6:7).
Make no mistake about this: You can never make a fool out of God. But your rote response did not answer the question.
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Old 09-10-2021, 11:09 AM
 
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Regarding the OP: "Punishment" is not really the idea with respect to "His children". It's more with regards to chastisement, Gk: "παιδεία", meaning to "instruct" or to "train" by way of discipline. Particularly with regards to children. And yes, God does chastises His own, none being without it.
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:23 PM
 
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then he sure screwed up with Hitler.
Huh? You think that if Hitler wasn't killed he would have 'repented and became a saint',
and not just continued murdering many many millions more??
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Old 09-10-2021, 12:25 PM
 
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then he sure screwed up with Hitler.
If there is a single instance that contradicts the idea of God's physical contravention of our Dominion on earth, it definitely would be Hitler!!!
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