September 15 - Feast of the Seven Dolours [Sorrows] of the Blessed Virgin Mary (prayer, Jesus)

[BaptistFundie]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Well, not to be persnickety but what you said was "It's what all believers have in common."

Which begs the question - WHAT do all believers have in common? So now you clarify it as "the common faith that all believers have." Gotcha.

However, many many (non Catholic and Catholic for the record) churches believe this:


https://www.umc.org/en/content/ask-t...of-saints-mean

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Gould, James B. (4 August 2016). Understanding Prayer for the Dead: Its Foundation in History and Logic. Wipf and Stock Publishers. p. 50.


https://baptistnews.com/article/we-b...B#.YZFfcp7MLMU


https://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P2B.HTM

Now show me Biblical examples or commands for or of anyone praying to a dead person.

[KathrynAragon]

I just want to point out that I recently bought two statues for my gardens (which are pretty extensive, so two statues aren't too many). I bought one of St. Francis and one of Mary, and I love them.

[EscAlaMike]

Originally Posted by BaptistFundie

Now show me Biblical examples or commands for or of anyone praying to a dead person.

Please define "praying".

[EscAlaMike]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

I just want to point out that I recently bought two statues for my gardens (which are pretty extensive, so two statues aren't too many). I bought one of St. Francis and one of Mary, and I love them.

Take up space!

[NatesDude]

Originally Posted by BaptistFundie

Now show me Biblical examples or commands for or of anyone praying to a dead person.

You are still hung up on the fact that you think everything about Christianity must be detailed out in the Bible to be valid . The Ancient Faiths do not work this way . They existed BEFORE the Bible .

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by BaptistFundie

Now show me Biblical examples or commands for or of anyone praying to a dead person.

Well, for starters I don't believe that Sola Scriptura is scriptural.

And secondly, I don't believe those who have "died" before us are actually dead.

[CCCyou]

Originally Posted by BaptistFundie

Now show me Biblical examples or commands for or of anyone praying to a dead person.

Matthew 17:3 is a pretty cool spot.

[MysticPhD]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Well, for starters I don't believe that Sola Scriptura is scriptural.

And secondly, I don't believe those who have "died" before us are actually dead.

[BaptistFundie]

Originally Posted by CCCyou

Matthew 17:3 is a pretty cool spot.

Matthew 17:3 "Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus"

Oh, please do elaborate how this creates that doctrine.

[KathrynAragon]

Clearly those two "dead guys" weren't so dead, and could talk to Jesus, who is also God, right?