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I've never prayed to Paul or Abraham, and Scripture doesn't support the idea. Her gender is irrelevant to me.
When translated to English, it's basically the Hail Mary prayer. Protestants don't do that because we don't pray to Mary. Or any dead human.
You may have a different definition of prayer. To the Catholic church, prayer is communication. And we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses and also the saints (who are all dead) surround the throne of God and bring our petitions to the throne of God.
Oh well, do what you believe is right and I will too. Just explaining my perspective.
You may have a different definition of prayer. To the Catholic church, prayer is communication. And we are surrounded by a cloud of witnesses and also the saints (who are all dead) surround the throne of God and bring our petitions to the throne of God.
Oh well, do what you believe is right and I will too. Just explaining my perspective.
Sorry. No verse says we should attempt communication with the dead. On the other hand, necromancy is expressly forbidden.
I think Eph 6:18 means for the saints ( believers) rather than to the saints ( Catholic saints ) .
in your prayers
δεήσει (deēsei)
Noun - Dative Feminine Singular
Strong's 1162: Supplication, prayer, entreaty. From deomai; a petition.
for
περὶ (peri)
Preposition
Strong's 4012: From the base of peran; properly, through, i.e. Around; figuratively with respect to; used in various applications, of place, cause or time.
all
πάντων (pantōn)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 3956: All, the whole, every kind of. Including all the forms of declension; apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole.
the
τῶν (tōn)
Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.
saints.
ἁγίων (hagiōn)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 40: Set apart by (or for) God, holy, sacred. From hagos; sacred.
Sorry. No verse says we should attempt communication with the dead. On the other hand, necromancy is expressly forbidden.
Don't be sorry - unless you want pity from me in return!
I don't believe that people who have died on this earth before us are not living, for starters. So I am not "communicating with the dead."
Question - what do you believe is the definition for the communion of the saints?
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