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Old 11-12-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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Wait - we are way off the topic of the thread by the way.
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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in your prayers
δεήσει (deēsei)
Noun - Dative Feminine Singular
Strong's 1162: Supplication, prayer, entreaty. From deomai; a petition.

for
περὶ (peri)
Preposition
Strong's 4012: From the base of peran; properly, through, i.e. Around; figuratively with respect to; used in various applications, of place, cause or time.

all
πάντων (pantōn)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 3956: All, the whole, every kind of. Including all the forms of declension; apparently a primary word; all, any, every, the whole.

the
τῶν (tōn)
Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

saints.
ἁγίων (hagiōn)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 40: Set apart by (or for) God, holy, sacred. From hagos; sacred.

I’m not sure of your point. Your post says what I said , for the saints, not to the saints . In other words , this is instruction to pray for other living Christians .
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Old 11-12-2021, 09:49 AM
 
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I’m not sure of your point. Your post says what I said , for the saints, not to the saints . In other words , this is instruction to pray for other living Christians .
lookup Strongs 4012 (peri) - here's a link - https://biblehub.com/greek/4012.htm

4012 perí (a preposition) – properly, all-around (on every side); encompassing, used of full (comprehensive) consideration where "all the bases are covered" (inclusively). 4012 (perí) is often translated "concerning" ("all about").


the english translation looses the meaning.
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Old 11-12-2021, 10:05 AM
 
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sure it does - Galatians 6:2
Galatians 6:2 doesn't mention praying to dead people.
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Old 11-12-2021, 10:07 AM
 
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Don't be sorry - unless you want pity from me in return!

I don't believe that people who have died on this earth before us are not living, for starters. So I am not "communicating with the dead."

Question - what do you believe is the definition for the communion of the saints?
Are you asking me about the Catholic doctrine? Or are you asking me what Scripture says of it? I'd invite you to post a Scripture reference and we can talk about it.
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Old 11-12-2021, 11:22 AM
 
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Sorry. No verse says we should attempt communication with the dead. On the other hand, necromancy is expressly forbidden.
No Christians are dead because they have been "born again" as Spirits. Only their physical bodies are dead.
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Old 11-12-2021, 11:25 AM
 
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Are you asking me about the Catholic doctrine? Or are you asking me what Scripture says of it? I'd invite you to post a Scripture reference and we can talk about it.
I asked what YOU believe about the communion of the saints.
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Old 11-12-2021, 11:33 AM
 
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I asked what YOU believe about the communion of the saints.
It's what all believers have in common.
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Old 11-12-2021, 11:34 AM
 
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No Christians are dead because they have been "born again" as Spirits. Only their physical bodies are dead.
So you can judge if one is born again or not? Or if one was born again that died 1000, 2000 years ago?
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Old 11-12-2021, 11:49 AM
 
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Galatians 6:2 doesn't mention praying to dead people.
Why do you call 'dead' who God calls alive?:

"He is not God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive" (Luke 20:38)

"this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.
I am the living bread that came down from heaven;
whoever eats this bread will live forever;
and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.
” (John 6:50-51)
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