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Right. So you think because of a verse from Revelation that Dear Aunt Sally is waiting on every prayer you make to her? Or some Saint is anxiously waiting and acting on a billion people praying simultaneous?
Being one with Christ has it's benefits!
Abraham had no problem with it!
Plus, having a 'pleasing fragrance' to offer to God is a GOOD thing!
I literally just told you. It's the common faith that all believers have.
Well, not to be persnickety but what you said was "It's what all believers have in common."
Which begs the question - WHAT do all believers have in common? So now you clarify it as "the common faith that all believers have." Gotcha.
However, many many (non Catholic and Catholic for the record) churches believe this:
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One common explanation of the the term “communion of saints” is that it refers to the whole community of faithful followers of Christ, living and dead, past, present and future.
The largest Lutheran denomination in the United States, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, "remembers the faithful departed in the Prayers of the People every Sunday, including those who have recently died and those commemorated on the church calendar of saints".
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Gould, James B. (4 August 2016). Understanding Prayer for the Dead: Its Foundation in History and Logic. Wipf and Stock Publishers. p. 50.
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Death cannot sever the unity of the Body of Christ...Along with confessing our belief in the resurrection of the body and the life everlasting, Christians confess that we believe in the communion of saints, a “Christian symbol that speaks of profound relationship,” in the words of Elizabeth Johnson in Friends of God and Prophets.
"It is not merely by the title of example that we cherish the memory of those in heaven; we seek, rather, that by this devotion to the exercise of fraternal charity the union of the whole Church in the Spirit may be strengthened. Exactly as Christian communion among our fellow pilgrims brings us closer to Christ, so our communion with the saints joins us to Christ, from whom as from its fountain and head issues all grace, and the life of the People of God itself"
Well, since I believe in the Trinity, I believe that Jesus is God. So there's that.
Jesus didnt teach that. John 20:17, Revelation 3:12, John 4:22-24--He teaches truth.
I am 100% confident that Jesus' real teachers on earth teach what he taught.
Jesus didnt teach that. John 20:17, Revelation 3:12, John 4:22-24--He teaches truth.
I am 100% confident that Jesus' real teachers on earth teach what he taught.
Ok, you don't believe in the Trinity but I do, and we're probably at an impasse. I doubt very seriously that either of us will convince the other that we're right and they're wrong.
Ok, you don't believe in the Trinity but I do, and we're probably at an impasse. I doubt very seriously that either of us will convince the other that we're right and they're wrong.
If one does serious study--They find even in oldest trinity translation from Greek--There is no capitol G God in the last line of John 1:1--It was put there to back false council teachings of the religion that came out of Rome( the great apostasy-son of peredition)
If one does serious study--They find even in oldest trinity translation from Greek--There is no capitol G God in the last line of John 1:1--It was put there to back false council teachings of the religion that came out of Rome( the great apostasy-son of peredition)
If one does serious study--They find even in oldest trinity translation from Greek--There is no capitol G God in the last line of John 1:1--It was put there to back false council teachings of the religion that came out of Rome( the great apostasy-son of peredition)
Actually the New Testament Greek is all capitals , no lower case . Also no punctuation . That’s part of what makes interpreting the original so difficult . You have to sort of guess at what they mean to interpret it. The old example of “let eat, Grandma” vs “ let’s eat Grandma “ comes into play .
Actually the New Testament Greek is all capitals , no lower case . Also no punctuation . That’s part of what makes interpreting the original so difficult . You have to sort of guess at what they mean to interpret it. The old example of “let eat, Grandma” vs “ let’s eat Grandma “ comes into play .
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