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Old 10-14-2021, 01:12 PM
 
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Yes! You tell him Donall and Conall!
I was wondering if someone would pick up on that.

It's like a Donnall and Conall greatest hits!
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Old 10-14-2021, 07:51 PM
 
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There are other translations. Here is another.

Isaiah 53:10 (NRS) Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him with pain. When you make his life an offering for sin, he shall see his offspring, and shall prolong his days; through him the will of the Lord shall prosper.

Notice it says; When YOU make His life an offering for sin.

What is His life? Like He said; “The words I spoke to you are spirit and life.”

The words of God are the offering for sin as I have been saying but some here don’t want to parrot God’s word.
Well, here is our Hebrew version from our Jewish Tanakh:

Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 53

10 And the Lord wished to crush him, He made him ill; if his soul makes itself restitution, he shall see children, he shall prolong his days, and God's purpose shall prosper in his hand.

See how a subtle change of words changes the meaning?...
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Old 10-14-2021, 07:59 PM
 
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Did you read how its stated Jesus is the everlasting Father, and why ?
In Hebrew it says that the everlasting Father named him the prince of peace...


Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 9

5 For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."


Rashi:

For a child has been born to us: Although Ahaz is wicked, his son who was born to him many years ago [nine years prior to his assuming the throne] to be our king in his stead, shall be a righteous man, and the authority of the Holy One, blessed be He, and His yoke shall be on his shoulder, for he shall engage in the Torah and observe the commandments, and he shall bend his shoulder to bear the burden of the Holy One, blessed be He.

and… called his name: The Holy One, blessed be He, Who gives wondrous counsel, is a mighty God and an everlasting Father, called Hezekiah’s name, “the prince of peace,” since peace and truth will be in his days.
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Old 10-14-2021, 08:00 PM
 
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Now you being deceptive and misleading.

Did you read how its stated Jesus is the everlasting Father, and why ?
It doesn’t say that...
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Old 10-15-2021, 02:31 AM
 
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In Hebrew it says that the everlasting Father named him the prince of peace...


Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 9

5 For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace."


Rashi:

For a child has been born to us: Although Ahaz is wicked, his son who was born to him many years ago [nine years prior to his assuming the throne] to be our king in his stead, shall be a righteous man, and the authority of the Holy One, blessed be He, and His yoke shall be on his shoulder, for he shall engage in the Torah and observe the commandments, and he shall bend his shoulder to bear the burden of the Holy One, blessed be He.

and… called his name: The Holy One, blessed be He, Who gives wondrous counsel, is a mighty God and an everlasting Father, called Hezekiah’s name, “the prince of peace,” since peace and truth will be in his days.
So did you understand the point made as to why Hes called the everlasting Father ?
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Old 10-15-2021, 02:32 AM
 
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It doesn’t say that...
Doesnt say what ?
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Old 10-15-2021, 02:38 AM
 
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In Hebrew it says that the everlasting Father named him the prince of peace...
I see what you saying, I need to check that out, but even if thats the case, it doesnt nullify the fact that Jesus has a seed, a spiritual seed.
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:02 AM
 
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So did you understand the point made as to why Hes called the everlasting Father ?
Jesus is not being called the everlasting father...And the verse is speaking about Hezakiah and I he everlasting father is calling him the prince of peace...
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:03 AM
 
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Doesnt say what ?
It doesn’t say that Jesus is the everlasting father...
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Old 10-15-2021, 07:04 AM
 
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@richard1965

I see what you saying, I need to check that out, but even if thats the case, it doesnt nullify the fact that Jesus has a seed, a spiritual seed.
No, he does not have a spiritual seed...And that is not what it is talking about...
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