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God is Love, but its discriminatory, He doesnt love everyone Rom 9:13
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Based upon His Sovereign Will
I find we need to remember that the word 'hate' in Scripture often means to love to a lesser degree.- Hebrews 12:16.
Please see Luke 14:26.
That was referring to the parts of their spirit that are evil or wicked, NOT their entire spirit. That is referred to as refinement in the consuming fire of God's love. Do you think you are all one or the other, MissKate? Do you know anyone you believe is ALL evil or wicked?
What kind of love is that to reject someone ? Have you ever felt rejected before, thats not love. Matt 7:23
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
In essence Jesus is telling them I have never loved you.
It's not "ye" (as translated in the KJV), but rather "that" which works the iniquity. The Greek definite article "οἱ" is referencing the flesh that works the iniquity. The flesh, the carnal nature of the soul is what works iniquity. Not the soul, per se. The definite article referencing the antecedent is clearly defined in Mat. 7:15-20 as two trees that yield fruit.
The soul of man has two kingdoms within, or rather two trees within that produce fruit. Those two trees are: spirit of man (the breath of God) and flesh (the carnal nature of man derived from the earth) Gen 2:7. That is what Jesus is speaking of. That is what the definite article in the Greek is referencing.
If you'll also notice, Jesus said: depart from me. It's that nature or tree of the soul, in Christ, that is being told to depart. It is that part of the soul that works the iniquity. Not the whole soul, per se. But rather "that" tree or nature of man that works the iniquity. That part of man's soul that is not in unity with Christ. What you're doing is throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water. And that is not what Jesus is doing. Jesus is getting rid of the soil from the earth (the flesh, the old man, the carnal nature) without casting out the soul itself.
It's not "ye" (as translated in the KJV), but rather "that" which works the iniquity. The Greek definite article "οἱ" is referencing the flesh that works the iniquity. The flesh, the carnal nature of the soul is what works iniquity. Not the soul, per se. The definite article referencing the antecedent is clearly defined in Mat. 7:15-20 as two trees that yield fruit.
The soul of man has two kingdoms within, or rather two trees within that produce fruit. Those two trees are: spirit of man (the breath of God) and flesh (the carnal nature of man derived from the earth) Gen 2:7. That is what Jesus is speaking of. That is what the definite article in the Greek is referencing.
If you'll also notice, Jesus said: depart from me. It's that nature or tree of the soul, in Christ, that is being told to depart. It is that part of the soul that works the iniquity. Not the whole soul, per se. But rather "that" tree or nature of man that works the iniquity. That part of man's soul that is not in unity with Christ. What you're doing is throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water. And that is not what Jesus is doing. Jesus is getting rid of the soil from the earth (the flesh, the old man, the carnal nature) without casting out the soul itself.
It's not "ye" (as translated in the KJV), but rather "that" which works the iniquity. The Greek definite article "οἱ" is referencing the flesh that works the iniquity. The flesh, the carnal nature of the soul is what works iniquity. Not the soul, per se. The definite article referencing the antecedent is clearly defined in Mat. 7:15-20 as two trees that yield fruit.
The soul of man has two kingdoms within, or rather two trees within that produce fruit. Those two trees are: spirit of man (the breath of God) and flesh (the carnal nature of man derived from the earth) Gen 2:7. That is what Jesus is speaking of. That is what the definite article in the Greek is referencing.
If you'll also notice, Jesus said: depart from me. It's that nature or tree of the soul, in Christ, that is being told to depart. It is that part of the soul that works the iniquity. Not the whole soul, per se. But rather "that" tree or nature of man that works the iniquity. That part of man's soul that is not in unity with Christ. What you're doing is throwing the baby out with the dirty bath water. And that is not what Jesus is doing. Jesus is getting rid of the soil from the earth (the flesh, the old man, the carnal nature) without casting out the soul itself.
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me.
For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man."
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me.
For you are not setting your mind on the things of God, but on the things of man."
So, by reason of His Love for us [the elect] we are more than overcomer's..
So for God to have loved all without exception, then all without exception would be more than conquerors. Which certainly cannot be the case.
Not "would be", but rather "will be" conquerors, which is the end goal of every souls purpose and existence in creation. That God may be the all in all. And that "certainly will be the case".
1Co 15:25 for it behoveth him to reign till he may have put all the enemies under his feet—
1Co 15:26 the last enemy is done away—death;
1Co 15:27 for all things He did put under his feet, and, when one may say that all things have been subjected, it is evident that He is excepted who did subject the all things to him,
1Co 15:28 and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the all in all.
Not "would be", but rather "will be" conquerors, which is the end goal of every souls purpose and existence in creation. That God may be the all in all. And that "certainly will be the case".
1Co 15:25 for it behoveth him to reign till he may have put all the enemies under his feet—
1Co 15:26 the last enemy is done away—death;
1Co 15:27 for all things He did put under his feet, and, when one may say that all things have been subjected, it is evident that He is excepted who did subject the all things to him,
1Co 15:28 and when the all things may be subjected to him, then the Son also himself shall be subject to Him, who did subject to him the all things, that God may be the all in all.
'All in all' by the end of the thousand years, until that time, a person can fall away - 1st Corinthians 10:12
The wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' according to Psalm 92:7; Psalm 104:35, who remains is found at Proverbs 2:21-22.
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