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can you understand english? I never even remotely said that. You are making it up.
You do not consider your organization to be one of the 34,000 or so denominations of Christianity. That is why I was confused. How are you not just another denomination within those 34,000 or however many Christian denominations there are? How can you claim unity being among so many?
You do not consider your organization to be one of the 34,000 or so denominations of Christianity. That is why I was confused. How are you not just another denomination within those 34,000 or however many Christian denominations there are? How can you claim unity being among so many?
No the JW,s have 0 to do with those religions, after all God called them the ***** of babylon.
No the JW,s have 0 to do with those religions, after all God called them the ***** of babylon.
Then you ARE NOT a Christian religion??? Make up your mind. Either you are or you aren't. If you are, then you are one of many and no sign of unity among them.
Then you ARE NOT a Christian religion??? Make up your mind. Either you are or you aren't. If you are, then you are one of many and no sign of unity among them.
There is one single christian religion that has Jesus. The rest are owned by his adversary, they are NOT christian even though claiming to be.
The Love that God has for them He Loves Deut 7:6-7 has it's origin in Eternity, premised on His Gift of His Son, whose goings forth hath been from everlasting Mic 5:2, He having been ordained to die for the objects of His Love before the world began 1 Pet 1:20
20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you[The Elect 1 Pet 1:1-2]
That God had a distinguishing Love among the human family of men is seen by His words here Mal 1:2
2I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, Notice, He did not say that He Loved Esau, Jacobs brother, He made a point to emphasize that !
Here it is affirmed even amongst men of the same human family of siblings, God Loved Jacob only, and not His brother esau. Now the Truth of the matter is this, each one of us falls into the category of either Jacob, those God Loves or esau, those God hates see Rom 9:13, meaning God does not Love ! We can rebel against this Truth all we want, it is not going to change God one bit !
You are reading a book based on Gentiles converting to Judaism where Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism AUTHORIZED by Rome. Israel had become a province of Rome in 6 A.D. where all the priests were killed.
You are taking your own invented religion built on lawlessness and paganism in an attempt to turn the chidren of Israel away from their times and seasons.
For all intents and puropses, you are the anti Christ trying and attempting to spread your lawlessnesss.
Do you even have a list of laws?
Do you even have a list of Sabbath and laws of feasts with their prescribed traditions?
You want to spread the gospel, the gospel is that Gentiles join Jews.
Is there a single Christian in here that will admit what religion Paul was in?
This is 30 years after Jesus died, 20 years after Peter had his dream about Gentiles and disciples were still confused about exactly how much tradition a Gentile should keep.
These questions went on for 20 years after the astonishing realization that Gentiles coukd actually join Judah by walking in the same religion as Jews.
Acts 21 Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. 22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. 25As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. 26Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
Paul Seized in the Temple
27And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him, 28Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
Acts 21
Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: 21And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. 22What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. 23Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; 24Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. 25As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication. 26Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.
Paul Seized in the Temple
27And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him, 28Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
THIS IS THE MAN, CEASE PAUL AND LET HIM BE STONED TO DEATH FOR TRYING TO TURN THE CHIDREN OF ISRAEL AWAY FROM THEIR TIMES AND SEASONS AND TRADITIONS.
KILL HIM, HE IS TEACHING AGAINST JUDAISM
Lies?
What about those tens of thousands of Israeli believers who became even more zealous to walk in Judaism?
You are reading a book based on Gentiles converting to Judaism where Christianity was a legal sect of Judaism AUTHORIZED by Rome. Israel had become a province of Rome in 6 A.D. where all the priests were killed.
You are taking your own invented religion built on lawlessness and paganism in an attempt to turn the chidren of Israel away from their times and seasons.
For all intents and puropses, you are the anti Christ trying and attempting to spread your lawlessnesss.
Do you even have a list of laws?
Do you even have a list of Sabbath and laws of feasts with their prescribed traditions?
You want to spread the gospel, the gospel is that Gentiles join Jews.
True Believers take God at His Word ! God's Sovereign distinguishing Love for His Chosen is the only Love for man God reveals as per Deut 7:6-7
6For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
7The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
Mal 1:2
2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
Now there is nothing here that suggests that God also Loved the Egyptians or other people groups that existed when this truth was made known, and it would pure assumption to state that He did !
God's Love is not as the False teachers tell us, a general love for all mankind, regardless of their perversion of the Jn 3:16 text or the 1 Jn 2:2 text, but it is special and directed only to His own People Jn 13:1
1Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
The objects of his love are described by his property in them, "his own"; by whom are meant, not all mankind, who are his by creation; nor the Jews, who were his nation and countrymen according to the flesh; nor the twelve apostles only, whom he had chosen; but all the elect of God, who are his own, by his choice of them, by the Father's gift of them to him, by the purchase he made of them with his blood, and by his effectual call of them by his grace: John Gill
The Church Eph 5:25,28-29
25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Scripture here is very specific as to who Christ Loved, the Church, same as in Jn 13:1, Which is His own Body
28So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
Again, Christ Loved His Own Church, His Wife, His Own Body, what can be made more plainer to any honest heart quickened by God ?
Read again Mal 1:2, this is the very scripture God inspired Paul to use when preaching about the Election of Grace Rom 9:11-13 cp Rom 11:5-6. That such a truth is really the case [God's Love being discriminate] that God Loves only some men and not others, Paul anticipated the objection of our carnal mind against it and wrote immediately after vs 14
13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
Now how many of us believe that for God to Love only some of humanity and hate others, love them not, simply based upon motives in Himself and not the creature's doing good or evil, that God would be unrighteous[injustice] for doing so ?
Injustice means :
the quality or fact of being unjust; inequity.
violation of the rights of others; unjust or unfair action or treatment.
Those of you who say what Paul anticipated his hearers to say, that if God did this He would be unfair, then you know that Paul Preached a Distinguishing Love of God for some and hating others !
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