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You missed the real point--The real teachers that have Jesus teach exactly what Jesus teaches. The rest are these-2Corinthians 11:12-15--satan and his teachers that pose as gods real teachers, transform into angels of light.
Satan beat 99% living now-centuries ago.
You missed the real point--The real teachers that have Jesus teach exactly what Jesus teaches. The rest are these-2Corinthians 11:12-15--satan and his teachers that pose as gods real teachers, transform into angels of light.
Satan beat 99% living now-centuries ago.
Satan, through the fear of God, made our ancestors' interpret the exact opposite of what Jesus taught and unambiguously demonstrated about God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness on the Cross. You and your teachers along with the majority of Christianity teach the wrathful God nonsense of our ignorant primitive ancestors. There was no wrath in Jesus and there is no wrath in God. Jesus is agape love and God is agape love, period!
Satan, through the fear of God, made our ancestors' interpret the exact opposite of what Jesus taught and unambiguously demonstrated about God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness on the Cross. You and your teachers along with the majority of Christianity teach the wrathful God nonsense of our ignorant primitive ancestors. There was no wrath in Jesus and there is no wrath in God. Jesus is agape love and God is agape love, period!
You must have missed this a teaching from Jesus who you just said shares agape love---Matthew 7:13-14
Enter through the narrow gate because broad and spacious the road that leads to DESTRUCTION and MANY are the ones going in through it. Where as narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life and FEW are the ones finding it.-- Now did Jesus lie or is it your confusion?
Yes agape love is shared to those who have entered the narrow gate. The rest are Gods enemies, they will be destroyed. They are the ones-that must fit in.
Satan, through the fear of God, made our ancestors' interpret the exact opposite of what Jesus taught and unambiguously demonstrated about God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness on the Cross. You and your teachers along with the majority of Christianity teach the wrathful God nonsense of our ignorant primitive ancestors. There was no wrath in Jesus and there is no wrath in God. Jesus is agape love and God is agape love, period!
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Originally Posted by kjw47
You must have missed this a teaching from Jesus who you just said shares agape love---Matthew 7:13-14
Enter through the narrow gate because broad and spacious the road that leads to DESTRUCTION and MANY are the ones going in through it. Where as narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life and FEW are the ones finding it.-- Now did Jesus lie or is it your confusion?
Yes agape love is shared to those who have entered the narrow gate. The rest are Gods enemies, they will be destroyed. They are the ones-that must fit in.
How does your wrathful nonsense fit in with "Forgive them they know not what they do!" Do YOU know what you do???? Does anybody??? Your organization is lying to you. Their ignorance and misunderstanding of God and Jesus are making your life unnecessarily miserable, dangerous, and depressing. Your leaders and teachers carry a heavy burden into the next life.
The elect are chosen in Christ before the foundation, before they existed in time, before they had any being at all. Just as the elect had a union with Adam in time, when Adam was first created, but yet none of the elect yet physically existed when Adam was first created. It was a seed substance union.
We disagree, that would make God unjust, manipulative. Selection began in the first century, and some fall away, therefore have to be replaced.
God's Love to His Elect, which began from Everlasting , by choosing them in Christ, yet it never changes, even when they sinned in Adam their natural head, or even when they themselves enter into the world by natural generation and begin their personal transgressions, being BY NATURE children of wrath as are others[the non elect], as God has always Loved them, He changes them, converts them by giving them a New Birth from above, and hence they come to Love Him, because He first Loved them ! So God's Love makes a difference and change in them, beginning by His making them alive or quickening them while dead in Sins, so Paul writes of them Eph 2:4-5
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved )
If anyone does not experience this quickening together with Christ because of God's great Love for them, then God did not Love them at all !
Satan, through the fear of God, made our ancestors' interpret the exact opposite of what Jesus taught and unambiguously demonstrated about God's Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness on the Cross. You and your teachers along with the majority of Christianity teach the wrathful God nonsense of our ignorant primitive ancestors. There was no wrath in Jesus and there is no wrath in God. Jesus is agape love and God is agape love, period!
No that didnt happen. The bible is truth. They above all had holy spirit to write down what God wanted. They were righteous men. Do you believe in Jesus? Do you believe in Noahs flood?
How does your wrathful nonsense fit in with "Forgive them they know not what they do!" Do YOU know what you do???? Does anybody??? Your organization is lying to you. Their ignorance and misunderstanding of God and Jesus are making your life unnecessarily miserable, dangerous, and depressing. Your leaders and teachers carry a heavy burden into the next life.
I wouldnt be wasting my time in places like this if i didnt have love for all my brothers and sisters that God created.
I would never listen to one who calls Gods written word a lie. Its that one who is deceived.
You see you missed a major point-God does everything through Jesus so all that occurred in the OT by Gods will went through Jesus. When the Israelites were wiped out in 70 ad, God did that through Jesus. And at Har-mageddon when Jesus leads Gods armies to the earth its Gods will and Jesus will carry it out. Acts 2:22--Gods power goes through Jesus.
At Noahs flood. God and his son shared to 8 human beings agape love, the rest were destroyed.
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