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Old 02-17-2022, 04:03 PM
 
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You were just saying a minute ago that those that Jesus called children of hell and of their father the devil that they could not escape damnation.
Yes. They were children of the devil. Not all jews are children of the devil, just like not all gentiles are children of the devil.

Some jews are children of the devil as well as some gentiles are.
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Old 02-17-2022, 04:13 PM
 
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Yes. They were children of the devil. Not all jews are children of the devil, just like not all gentiles are children of the devil.

Some jews are children of the devil as well as some gentiles are.
Your evil doctrines have built in moveable goalposts.
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Old 02-17-2022, 05:44 PM
 
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Your evil doctrines have built in moveable goalposts.
There are two manner of people in the world, children of God and children of the devil, yet all by nature are the same, sinners and ungodly. So God Loves some ungodly sinners Rom 5:8 and He hates some ungodly sinners Rom 9:13;Ps 5:5. The ones He Loves He chose them in Christ before the foundation !
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Old 02-17-2022, 07:18 PM
 
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There are two manner of people in the world, children of God and children of the devil, yet all by nature are the same, sinners and ungodly. So God Loves some ungodly sinners Rom 5:8 and He hates some ungodly sinners Rom 9:13;Ps 5:5. The ones He Loves He chose them in Christ before the foundation !
Utterly preposterous hogwash! I takes a monumental ego to think they have been specially chosen over others by God and a very dark soul to claim to love a God who would do such a thing.
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Old 02-17-2022, 07:21 PM
 
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Utterly preposterous hogwash! I takes a monumental ego to think they have been specially chosen over others by God and a very dark soul to claim to love a God who would do such a thing.
Exactly!
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Old 02-18-2022, 06:37 AM
 
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Gods Love is Holy ! 2


Theres no scripture proof whatsoever that God loves the unrighteous sinner outside of Christ and therefore outside of Election/Chosen Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

To be Loved by God, they would have to be In Christ Rom 8:39 in Union with Him, because Gods Love is in Christ Jesus; and this election in Christ would have occured before the foundation, with this in Mind, the World God so Loved in Jn 3:16 has to be a World in Union with Christ by Election, simply because it has to be the exclusive Love of God in Christ Jesus Rom 8:39.

None in this Jn 3:16 world can be of them that are unrighteous as in 1 Cor 6:9

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

These cannot be any God Loved, or whom Christ died for and made Righteous Rom 5:19

Neither these 2 Pet 2:9

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Simply because if God Loved them and Christ died for them, regardless of their spiritual state, they are Righteous and shall Inherit the Kingdom of God, whereas these shall not 1 Cor 6:9 !
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Old 02-18-2022, 06:41 AM
 
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Gods Love is Holy ! 2


Theres no scripture proof whatsoever that God loves the unrighteous sinner outside of Christ and therefore outside of Election/Chosen Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

To be Loved by God, they would have to be In Christ Rom 8:39 in Union with Him, because Gods Love is in Christ Jesus; and this election in Christ would have occured before the foundation, with this in Mind, the World God so Loved in Jn 3:16 has to be a World in Union with Christ by Election, simply because it has to be the exclusive Love of God in Christ Jesus Rom 8:39.

None in this Jn 3:16 world can be of them that are unrighteous as in 1 Cor 6:9

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

These cannot be any God Loved, or whom Christ died for and made Righteous Rom 5:19

Neither these 2 Pet 2:9

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Simply because if God Loved them and Christ died for them, regardless of their spiritual state, they are Righteous and shall Inherit the Kingdom of God, whereas these shall not 1 Cor 6:9 !
Which world is it that God SO loved ? The only conclusion I can come to in believing your vile doctrine, is, that world must be a world in Christ
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Old 02-18-2022, 06:45 AM
 
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Utterly preposterous hogwash! I takes a monumental ego to think they have been specially chosen over others by God and a very dark soul to claim to love a God who would do such a thing.
See you cant receive the Truth. There are two seperate groups of ungodly sinners, one group God Loved Jn 3:16; Rom 5:8 and a group God hated Ps 5:5

5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.


They shall not stand in His sight !

But the sinners He Loved and chose in Christ are holy and unblameable in His sight Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Col 1:22

In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
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Old 02-18-2022, 06:48 AM
 
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Which world is it that God SO loved ? The only conclusion I can come to in believing your vile doctrine, is, that world must be a world in Christ
God so Loved the world He chose in Christ before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

. The world He hated is the world comprised of the seed of the serpent.
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Old 02-18-2022, 06:59 AM
 
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God so Loved the world He chose in Christ before the foundation of the world Eph 1:4

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

. The world He hated is the world comprised of the seed of the serpent.
LMAO you must be getting worn out moving the goalposts so much.

Eph 1:4 is God's plan for man.

How can the world he SO loved be a world mentioned in John 3:16 be a world in Christ where a a chosen people reside, when Jesus said whosever. It is entirely pointless to say whosever if all who are chosen in was predetermined, in fact him coming at all would be entirely a waste of time, it is control, not influence or persuasion.
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