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Old 02-26-2022, 04:09 AM
 
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Gods Love ensures that we live Spiritually.

1Jn 4:9-10

In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Those whom God sent Christ into the World for, to be a propitaiton for their sins 1J2:2, the end result and effect would be that they [whom Christ propitated God for]
might Live,for the sake of Him, that is for Christ Sake. For sinners that Christ died for, and propitated God for,for anyone of them not to live spiritually, its a crime against Christ, because it's for His sake they must live spiritually, even as God must forgive them their sins for Christ Sake Eph 4:32, they being the Elect of God Eph 1:4, see also 1 Jn 2:12; Isa 43:25 !
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Old 02-26-2022, 04:13 AM
 
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No, the gospel is good news to all not just you and your elect mates, it is you that is exasperated by this and in rebellion towards the breadth depth height and length of the love of God that passes understanding, especially your narrow minded understanding of the love of God.
Oh No, to some the Gospel is a savor of death unto death 2 Cor 2:15-16

15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

16 To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

Like I have stated, some people hate the Gospel, its not good news to them, but a message of death, and thats how God purposed it for them.
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Old 02-26-2022, 04:44 AM
 
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Oh No, to some the Gospel is a savor of death unto death 2 Cor 2:15-16

15 For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:
Without a doubt it is to you. To those that believe and know what the Cross actually represents........ the power of the illusion of death being destroyed it is glorious, unfathomable and beyond what we could have ever known or believed. Christ triumphed at the cross.

Just as he was publicly hung. Christ triumphing over everything that had power of us, he publicly paraded has being defeated. You sadly believe in all the powers that he destroyed and still promote them.

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
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Old 02-26-2022, 10:00 AM
 
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Without a doubt it is to you. To those that believe and know what the Cross actually represents........ the power of the illusion of death being destroyed it is glorious, unfathomable and beyond what we could have ever known or believed. Christ triumphed at the cross.

Just as he was publicly hung. Christ triumphing over everything that had power of us, he publicly paraded has being defeated. You sadly believe in all the powers that he destroyed and still promote them.

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Nicely put!
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Old 02-27-2022, 02:53 AM
 
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Cant be separated from Gods Love in Christ Jesus !


Rom 8:38-39

38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The Chosen in Christ before the foundation Eph 1:4 or the Elect were always recipient and objects of Gods Love, and though they sinned in Adam their natural head, and incurred the wages of sin which is death Rom 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

This death for the wages of sin, could not separate the Elect, the Chosen in Christ from the Love of God in their Head Christ Jesus.
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Old 02-27-2022, 05:45 PM
 
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There is no reasoning with such unreasoning credulity in such an evil doctrine, Pcamps.

Yes all creation can see the mass of confusion in boards like this, by satans will being accomplished= confusion. How can one possibly find truth? Like this--- This is my son the beloved in whom i am well pleased-LISTEN TO HIM= First everytime. John 10:27--My sheep, listen to my voice( Jesus)
Jesus is the way, truth and life, no one comes to the Father except through me. To accomplish this-John 4:22-24= the only true God Jesus teaches-John 17:3--- i find it hard to believe that most outright refuse to believe him over errors in translations and dogmas. Why? Most know their own familys would hate them because they do not fit in with the worlds view. Luke 12:51- Matt 10:35-- so they take the easy path which equals the broad and spacious path.
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Old 02-28-2022, 04:21 AM
 
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Its plain from the scripture that the True God doesn't Love everyone! Ps 5:5

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

The Workers of iniquity means the actual persons are hated by God !
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Old 02-28-2022, 11:20 AM
 
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Its plain from the scripture that the True God doesn't Love everyone! Ps 5:5

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

The Workers of iniquity means the actual persons are hated by God !
Nonsense. What we sow is not in the physical person. It is in the consciousness (Spirit) or state of mind that is doing the iniquity. These are separate parts of our Spirit and can be removed separately. You are not just the wicked things you think and do. You are composite and only the wicked and evil that you do needs to be repented by you or removed by God. The former is preferable because the latter will not be pleasant.
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Old 02-28-2022, 12:33 PM
 
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Nonsense. What we sow is not in the physical person. It is in the consciousness (Spirit) or state of mind that is doing the iniquity. These are separate parts of our Spirit and can be removed separately. You are not just the wicked things you think and do. You are composite and only the wicked and evil that you do needs to be repented by you or removed by God. The former is preferable because the latter will not be pleasant.
God hates all the workers of iniquity ! The persons !
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Old 02-28-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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God hates all the workers of iniquity ! The persons !
Your physical person is not of any concern to God who is a Spirit. It is our Spirit that is of concern to God and just as our thoughts are fleeting, so are the many aspects of our Spirit. Only those aspects that are wicked or evil will be removed from our Spirit permanently
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