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That is NOT speaking of a LIMITATION of God's love and forgiveness. It is providing an illustration of it. See the wondrous love and forgiveness of God that he even "pardoneth iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of his heritage?" It seems you could use reading comprehension lessons.
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Originally Posted by Brightfame52
Yes it is, do you know what a remnant is?
It doesn't matter what a remnant is since they are simply an example of His love and forgiveness, NOT the only ones loved and forgiven.
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Originally Posted by pcamps
Did you know God only thinks in abundance? Yes, I know he called them a little flock, but that little flock grew into a flock immeasurable.
The god in your head is a god that is limited by beliefs, beliefs like your own.
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
The us and we here isnt all mankind without exception, but those Paul said in Rom 1:7
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
No, all aren't the beloved of God, call saints'
Paul tells us in another epistle who are the beloved of God, or of the Lord 2 Thess 2:13
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
The Beloved are those God hath from the beginning chosen to Salvation.18
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
The us and we here isnt all mankind without exception, but those Paul said in Rom 1:7
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
No, all aren't the beloved of God, call saints'
Paul tells us in another epistle who are the beloved of God, or of the Lord 2 Thess 2:13
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
The Beloved are those God hath from the beginning chosen to Salvation.18
Hogwash. We are all beloved of God and He calls us all to become saints by following Jesus. We listen or not.
Rom 1:7 gives another distinct mark of those God commended His love towards while they were sinners in Rom 5:8,
They are called saints or called to be saints. The word saint hagios:
set apart by (or for) God, holy, sacred.
Paul means those who have been set apart by and for God. All whom God Loves He will set them apart by the sanctifying work of the Spirit as indicated in 2 Thess 2:13
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
Rom 1:7 gives another distinct mark of those God commended His love towards while they were sinners in Rom 5:8,
They are called saints or called to be saints. The word saint hagios:
set apart by (or for) God, holy, sacred.
Paul means those who have been set apart by and for God. All whom God Loves He will set them apart by the sanctifying work of the Spirit as indicated in 2 Thess 2:13
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
Are you referring to sinners that are the elect or all sinners, here ?
Gods Love effects spiritual favorable consequences. Rev 1:5
5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Gods Love will produce being washed from our sins by the blood of Christ. So everyone in Jn 3:16 of the World God so loved, have been washed from their sins.
Now does that include all mankind without exception ? Absolutely not, for many will die in unbelief in their sins Jn 8:24
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
However thats impossible for ones God loves and washed from their sins. They shall receive mercy for their sins and unbelief Rom 11:32
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
In Rev 1:5 those who were washed were those who Jesus Loved, thats a benefit/ fruitage of being loved. Jesus washed them in is precious blood because He loved them.
Similar Paul wrote of those Christ Loved and its consequence Eph 5:25-27
25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Thats false, only Gods Elect, Chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world.
On what basis would they be chosen and why? Are we just robots playing our assigned roles? Explain your thinking.
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