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Actually, MQ, 2nd temple period Judaism did have an evil Satan figure. For example, in the Dead Sea Scrolls War Scroll he goes by the name of Belial. While in the Old Testament belial is more of a principle, in extra-biblical 2nd temple period texts belial was personified as an evil entity. This can be seen for example in column 13 of the War Scroll.
(1) and his brothers the [pr]iests, the Levites, and all the elders of the Army with him. They shall bless from their position, the God of Israel and all His works of truth, and they shall curse (2)[Beli]al there and all the spirits of his forces. And they shall say response: "Blessed is the God of Israel for all His holy purpose and His works of truth. And blessed are
(3) those who serve Him richteously, who know Him by faith. (4)And cursed is Belial for his contentious purpose, and accursed for his reprehensible rule. And cursed are all the spirits of his lot for their wicked purpose.
(5) Accursed are they for all their filthy dirty service. For they are the lot of darkness, but the lot of God is light
(6) [eterna]l.
(7) Y[o]u are the God of our fathers. We bless Your name forever, for we are an [eter]na[l] people. You made a covenant with our fathers, and will establish it for their seed
(8) throughout the ages of eternity. In all the testimonies of Your glory there has been remembrance of Your [kindness] in our midst as an assistance to the remnant and the survivors for the sake of Your covenant
(9) and to re[count] Your works of truth and the judgments of Your wondrous strength. And You, [O God], created us for Yourself as an eternal people, and into the lot of light You cast us
(10) in accordance with Your truth. You appointed the Prince of Light from of old to assist us, for in [His] l[ot are all sons of righteous]ness and all spirits of truth are in his dominion. You yourself
(11) made Belial for the pit, an angel of malevolence, his [dominio]n is in darkne[ss] and his counsel is to condemn and convict. All the spirits
(12) of his lot -- the angels of destruction-- walk in accord with the rule of darkness, for it is their only [des]ire. But we, in the lot of Your truth, rejoice in
(13) Your mighty hand. We rejoice in Your salvation, and revel in [Your] hel[p and] Your [p]eace. Who is like You in strength, O God of Israel, and yet
(14) Your mighty hand is with the oppressed. What angel or prince is like You for [Your] effe[ctual] support, [fo]r of old You appointed for Yourself a day of gre[at battle ...]
(15) [...] to [sup]port truth and to destroy iniquity, to bring darkness low and to lend might to light, and to [...]
(16) [...] for an eternal stand, and to annihilate all the Sons of Darkness and bring joy to [al]l [the Sons of Light ...]
(17) [...]
(18) [... f]or You Yourself designated us for an app[ointed time ...]
The word "Saw-tawn" (or if you prefer Satan) cannot be used as a proper name to refer to a certain individual or entity and was generally used to describe any person who opposes or acts as an adversary. As for the Hebrew word "Belial" - it merely meant those who are worthless, wicked or evil; and was commonly used to speak of people who did things contrary to the ways of God. I have responded to things, numerous times regarding the false ideologies of demons, the devil or Satan, however it does no good when it falls on deaf ears.
The word "Saw-tawn" (or if you prefer Satan) cannot be used as a proper name to refer to a certain individual or entity and was generally used to describe any person who opposes or acts as an adversary.
Since the New Testament does use the word Satan as a proper name for the devil that's a silly claim on your part.
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As for the Hebrew word "Belial" - it merely meant those who are worthless, wicked or evil; and was commonly used to speak of people who did things contrary to the ways of God. I have responded to things, numerous times regarding the false ideologies of demons, the devil or Satan, however it does no good when it falls on deaf ears.
As was shown in the Dead Sea Scrolls War Scroll (see post #10), the word Belial was used for an evil being which was the enemy of God.
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The word "Saw-tawn" (or if you prefer Satan) cannot be used as a proper name to refer to a certain individual or entity and was generally used to describe any person who opposes or acts as an adversary. As for the Hebrew word "Belial" - it merely meant those who are worthless, wicked or evil; and was commonly used to speak of people who did things contrary to the ways of God. I have responded to things, numerous times regarding the false ideologies of demons, the devil or Satan, however it does no good when it falls on deaf ears.
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Since the New Testament does use the word Satan as a proper name for the devil, I'd say that you are wrong.
As was shown in the Dead Sea Scrolls War Scroll (see post #10), the word Belial was used for an evil being which was the enemy of God.
Diabolos in the Greek is a reference to that of an accuser or slanderer, and is not exclusively used as a name for "the adversary." Therefore, the devil is merely a title, like that of a liar. Surely, you have met people that are mean spirited, liars, or tend to be more wicked in thought, deed or actions. Perhaps, even a false accuser or slanderer that you might consider an evil, ungodly or wicked person? Or, some people who have bad characteristics? Although, an adversary is not always an evil or ungodly person.
Diabolos in the Greek is a reference to that of an accuser or slanderer, and is not exclusively used as a name for "the adversary." Therefore, the devil is merely a title, like that of a liar. Surely, you have met people that are mean spirited, liars, or tend to be more wicked in thought, deed or actions. Perhaps, even a false accuser or slanderer that you might consider an evil, ungodly or wicked person? Or, some people who have bad characteristics? Although, an adversary is not always an evil or ungodly person.
You're changing you're argument. You said that the word 'Satan' can't be used for an individual. I said that it is used in the New Testament for the devil. And since it is, your claim is wrong. Period. Over and out.
You're changing you're argument. You said that the word 'Satan' can't be used for an individual. I said that it is used in the New Testament for the devil. And since it is, your claim is wrong. Period. Over and out.
It's not a proper name like Billy, Joe, Jim, Bob! (10-4)? As you can see from above, the word "diabolos" is used as a reference for slanderers or false accusers, which clearly indicates that the word is like that of "satan" or a general term - not a proper name. An epithet is a descriptive term (a word or phrase) accompanying or occurring in place of a name. And these terms are an indication of the qualities, which have to do with a certain characteristic.
You could look on who to blame for bad health, and the evil in man and the world or the manipulation of the deceptive evil spirits of the world, ... Jesus said ``forgive them as they don't know what they are doing `` Yet that many anointed preachers who fall into control say blame man not the devil ....... In Jesus day there were the Pharisees who believed in the devil, spirits, resurrection, where the Sadducee did not believe in the devil, spirits, or the resurrection
It's not a proper name like Billy, Joe, Jim, Bob! (10-4)? As you can see from above, the word "diabolos" is used as a reference for slanderers or false accusers, which clearly indicates that the word is like that of "satan" or a general term - not a proper name. An epithet is a descriptive term (a word or phrase) accompanying or occurring in place of a name. And these terms are an indication of the qualities, which have to do with a certain characteristic.
Hastings' Dictionary of the New Testament disagrees with you. It's very obvious that the word Satan is used as a proper name in the New Testament.
Often times, definitions are added to include a particular belief. Research the word HELL over time.
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