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The Greek word for devil means slanderer while the Hebrew word for Satan means a hinderer, someone or something that gets in the way…So, neither are synonymous as a lot of people think…
Regarding your remarks of Cain, would it be possible that he was the worlds first sociopath?…
Not as such
I think the creation story is about setting up types, and are prophetic about what was to be fulfilled globally
I don’t believe that the stories/narratives are speaking of literal, physical, individual, historical people as such - even though I do think they could be loosely based on some historical event, or type of person
The Hebrew Scriptures have their own roots in the Egyptian and Mesopotamian thoughts/writings but were also looking forward as well to the “latter days”
There is a lot of change in language and it’s usage and to understand what the Scriptures are meaning you need to understand how they were using it, and also the meaning of the name
H7014***(Strong)
קַיִן
qayin
kah'-yin
The same as H7013 (with a play upon the affinity to H7069); Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Palestine, and of an Oriental tribe: - Cain, Kenite (-s).
H7013***(Strong)
קַיִן
qayin
kah'-yin
From H6969 in the original sense of fixity; a lance (as striking fast): - spear.
H7069***(Strong)
קָנָה
qânâh
kaw-naw'
A primitive root; to erect, that is, create; by extension to procure, especially by purchase (causatively sell); by implication to own: - attain, buy (-er), teach to keep cattle, get, provoke to jealousy, possess (-or), purchase, recover, redeem, X surely, X verily.
In Judaism. this characteristic of mankind is called the Yetzer HaRa and the Yetzer HaTov…From my studies I’ve come to understand that a more understandable reference to the Yetzer HaRa would be HaSatan or the Satan…Which we all are born with as well as the Yetzer HaTov…
Yetzer HaRa = the bad inclination…
Yetzer HaTov = the good in inclination…
I’d suggest that, while the nature of Yetzer HaRa is equal to the nature of HaSatan, the nature of Yetzer HaTov is equal to Righteousness which would be equal to G-d, after all, G-d did make man in His own image and it’s possible that man created the Yetzer HaRa, but then again, Adam would have to have been formed with the Yetzer HaRa in order for him to have disobeyed G-d, because if he was formed only with the Yetzer HaTov, how would he have even thought to disobey G-d?…These are just my thoughts…
Yes, it seems to be about capacity or possibility which isn’t good or evil, it is the action caused by the motivation that defines it
There is a levelling at work as well
Humans individually and corporately always have that duality
Judaism, like all religions evolved over time. All I'm saying here, and as scholarship knows, is that during 2nd Temple period Judaism, Jewish writings outside of the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible were portraying a Satan figure by the use of various names such as Belial, Mastema and others, who was in opposition to God. And so, Satan as portrayed in the New Testament is not the invention of Christianity.
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Ok, does it actually say wicked “beings”?…
Why don't you read the portion of the War Scroll that I posted? Belial is described as an angel of malevolence, and therefore as an evil or wicked being. Then of course 1 Enoch has fallen or rebellious angels descending from heaven to the summit of Mount Hermon where they made a pact to take human females as wives.
Judaism, like all religions evolved over time. All I'm saying here, and as scholarship knows, is that during 2nd Temple period Judaism, Jewish writings outside of the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible were portraying a Satan figure by the use of various names such as Belial, Mastema and others, who was in opposition to God. And so, Satan as portrayed in the New Testament is not the invention of Christianity.
Why don't you read the portion of the War Scroll that I posted? Belial is described as an angel of malevolence, and therefore as an evil or wicked being. Then of course 1 Enoch has fallen or rebellious angels descending from heaven to the summit of Mount Hermon where they made a pact to take human females as wives.
Your last sentence leads to the theory that those ancient rulers like Pharoah, were actually half-divine, as they themselves claimed. At least that's how I understand Dr. Heiser on the subject.
That would correlate with many ancient myths about semi-divine "humans" and little-g gods. Usually up to no good and in opposition to God.
Your last sentence leads to the theory that those ancient rulers like Pharoah, were actually half-divine, as they themselves claimed. At least that's how I understand Dr. Heiser on the subject.
That would correlate with many ancient myths about semi-divine "humans" and little-g gods. Usually up to no good and in opposition to God.
I think that ancient rulers such as the Egyptians simply were considered to be divine or semi-divine as were the later Roman Emperors. In the Old Testament, king Og was said to be the last of the Rephaim which was one of the giant clans and related to the Nephilim. Also, Goliath and his brothers were among the last of the giants.
However, the Nephilim story in the Old Testament has as a backdrop the Sumerian stories of the Apkallu who after the flood were said to be half-divine beings. Also, in the Sumerian story of the Epic of Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh was said to be half divine and of giant stature.
Judaism, like all religions evolved over time. All I'm saying here, and as scholarship knows, is that during 2nd Temple period Judaism, Jewish writings outside of the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible were portraying a Satan figure by the use of various names such as Belial, Mastema and others, who was in opposition to God. And so, Satan as portrayed in the New Testament is not the invention of Christianity.
Why don't you read the portion of the War Scroll that I posted? Belial is described as an angel of malevolence, and therefore as an evil or wicked being. Then of course 1 Enoch has fallen or rebellious angels descending from heaven to the summit of Mount Hermon where they made a pact to take human females as wives.
Of course that has to make this Satan of Christianism real, while comparing or contrasting this entity with various false gods, rather than a certain characteristic as a quality or trait?
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