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I'm sure there were dragons (what we now call dinosaurs) on the ark. Since the old world was destroyed with the Deluge, it's safe to assume many of them were unable to survive in the new conditions.
God's plan with the Deluge was not to save the dinosaurs. His plan was to judge the earth and destroy it with water. In His mercy, He allowed mankind and animal life to survive, to whatever extent possible.
Hey mike even though i disagree with your literal take on the flood for different reasons then mike i thought you might like to know dinosaur and man did co exist together and still do. Take a look at this fish coelacanth, said to be extinct 66 million years ago but is still alive and well in our waters.
Hey mike even though i disagree with your literal take on the flood for different reasons then mike i thought you might like to know dinosaur and man did co exist together and still do. Take a look at this fish coelacanth, said to be extinct 66 million years ago but is still alive and well in our waters.
The coelacanth was not a dinosaur. It existed at the same time as the dinosaurs but was not itself a dinosaur. Modern birds on the other hand are living dinosaurs.
The coelacanth was not a dinosaur. It existed at the same time as the dinosaurs but was not itself a dinosaur. Modern birds on the other hand are living dinosaurs.
Ok but it is still of the age of the dino and did and still does coexist with man.
Hey mike even though i disagree with your literal take on the flood for different reasons then mike i thought you might like to know dinosaur and man did co exist together and still do. Take a look at this fish coelacanth, said to be extinct 66 million years ago but is still alive and well in our waters.
Another little tidbit for you mike is that in 66 million year this fish still look pretty much the same.
Where did all that water come from and then where did it go?
This is just my guess, which may or may not be what actually happened: perhaps the water of Noah's flood is all still here, that none of it is "missing", that it's all in the oceans. How is that possible someone would say, since there would have to be WAY more water to cover all the mountain peaks?
Well, consider this: that perhaps back in the days of Noah those mountains could have been very tiny, Mt Everest may have been just hundreds of feet, not tens of thousands that it is right now today, ditto with all the other tall mountains, and that the depths of the oceans could have been in the hundreds of feet, instead of the tens of thousands of feet that we see today. If that was the case, then the oceans hold entirely enough water to have covered the entire earth, but it has all been "shifted" to one side, to allow more dry land to appear. The earth has always been in a state of change, and we know that fossil sea shells have been found on mountain tops thousands of feet above sea level...that alone should be sufficient proof to show that the mountains were not always so high.
This is just my guess, which may or may not be what actually happened: perhaps the water of Noah's flood is all still here, that none of it is "missing", that it's all in the oceans. How is that possible someone would say, since there would have to be WAY more water to cover all the mountain peaks?
Well, consider this: that perhaps back in the days of Noah those mountains could have been very tiny, Mt Everest may have been just hundreds of feet, not tens of thousands that it is right now today, ditto with all the other tall mountains, and that the depths of the oceans could have been in the hundreds of feet, instead of the tens of thousands of feet that we see today. If that was the case, then the oceans hold entirely enough water to have covered the entire earth, but it has all been "shifted" to one side, to allow more dry land to appear. The earth has always been in a state of change, and we know that fossil sea shells have been found on mountain tops thousands of feet above sea level...that alone should be sufficient proof to show that the mountains were not always so high.
Here's why that doesn't work. The story of Noah was set ~4000 years ago. Even if it was much earlier, it still doesn't work. Humans have existed for 150,000 to 200,000 years. The Appalachian Mountains are over 200 Million years old. The geological movement of the mountains took place hundreds of millions of years before humans evolved on earth.
This is just my guess, which may or may not be what actually happened: perhaps the water of Noah's flood is all still here, that none of it is "missing", that it's all in the oceans. How is that possible someone would say, since there would have to be WAY more water to cover all the mountain peaks?
Well, consider this: that perhaps back in the days of Noah those mountains could have been very tiny, Mt Everest may have been just hundreds of feet, not tens of thousands that it is right now today, ditto with all the other tall mountains, and that the depths of the oceans could have been in the hundreds of feet, instead of the tens of thousands of feet that we see today. If that was the case, then the oceans hold entirely enough water to have covered the entire earth, but it has all been "shifted" to one side, to allow more dry land to appear. The earth has always been in a state of change, and we know that fossil sea shells have been found on mountain tops thousands of feet above sea level...that alone should be sufficient proof to show that the mountains were not always so high.
You're exactly right. All the water is still there. There's enough water on the surface of the earth for it to be completely covered. What happened is the mountains went up and the valleys went down. Psalm 104:8 describes this.
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Here's why that doesn't work. The story of Noah was set ~4000 years ago. Even if it was much earlier, it still doesn't work. Humans have existed for 150,000 to 200,000 years. The Appalachian Mountains are over 200 Million years old. The geological movement of the mountains took place hundreds of millions of years before humans evolved on earth.
There is no empirical evidence, only interpretation and theory, for any of these objections.
There was no global flood. The dating of the supposed Noah's flood is based on the biblical genealogies and puts it at about 4,500 years ago which puts it at the same time that ancient Mesopotamian and Egyptian civilizations were flourishing. Therefore . . . no global flood.
It's a story just like the other ancient Near East flood stories which are all based on an actual regional flood, perhaps a flooding of the Tigris-Euphrates river system, or perhaps a memory of the Black Sea flood. Over time legends of the flood developed and to explain the flood the gods were said to have caused it for their own reasons.
The biblical flood story is no different. The Hebrew Bible is big on polemicizing the other gods and stories of the other ancient Near East peoples and the biblical flood story is an example of that in which Yahweh is given the credit for causing the flood. Not because humans made so much noise that the gods couldn't sleep and so sent the flood to wipe out mankind, but because mankind was so evil that Yahweh decided to start over and so destroyed all but Noah and his family.
It's a story and not historical.
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