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Old 11-25-2021, 07:10 AM
 
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UNBELIEF cannot be forgiven as it continues.........and will send billions where they don't want to be........
And belief without works is useless. Even demons believe in God. It isn't who/what we believe, we all have very limited access to facts, it is WHO WE ARE as people. Did I stop to help that destitute in trouble or pass them by?
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Old 11-28-2021, 09:50 AM
 
Location: In bucolic TN
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It's the same thing. It's rejecting Christ.
This is it. When you die unrepentant, arrogantly tossing away the gift of the Holy Spirit, which is translating the grace of G-d in salvation for all humanity, and as specified for yourself (it is personal), you cannot be forgiven.

Nothing more, nothing less. To describe more takes on the person of G-d (and we as fallible humans couldn't be so presumptuous, to discern one sin above others). To consider less underestimates grace.
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Old 12-05-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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And belief without works is useless. Even demons believe in God. It isn't who/what we believe, we all have very limited access to facts, it is WHO WE ARE as people. Did I stop to help that destitute in trouble or pass them by?
James does not apply to those saved by grace today........to see who it DOES apply to read it from James himself in chapter 1.........

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes in the Dispersion: Greetings.

Are you in one of the 12 tribes??
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Old 12-19-2021, 07:06 AM
 
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The video below clearly explains that modern believers cannot blaspheme the Holy Spirit:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Euiklrlmpk4
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Old 12-19-2021, 12:06 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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And belief without works is useless. Even demons believe in God. It isn't who/what we believe, we all have very limited access to facts, it is WHO WE ARE as people. Did I stop to help that destitute in trouble or pass them by?
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James does not apply to those saved by grace today........to see who it DOES apply to read it from James himself in chapter 1.........

Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes in the Dispersion: Greetings.

Are you in one of the 12 tribes??
Missed these posts before but I believe in part we all have a share in the promised ‘dispersal’ as there are different levels to both the dispersion and the gathering together, and also different timing, seasonality as well as the different divisions and regions themselves

Problems happen when you apply something to the wrong level or compare different levels together directly without taking into account both relativity and context

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Old 12-19-2021, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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Here is a progressive ladder leading from camp to camp and everyone begins in the North in Reubens camp.

3 tribes for each direction and each of the 3 represent body, soul and spirit.

The progression shown in this stairway to heaven cannot be mistaken.

Genesis 49

Jacob Blesses his Sons

1And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.

2Gather yourselves together, and hear, ye sons of Jacob; and hearken unto Israel your father.

3Reuben, thou art my firstborn, my might, and the beginning of my strength, the excellency of dignity, and the excellency of power:

4Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.

5Simeon and Levi are brethren; instruments of cruelty are in their habitations.

6O my soul, come not thou into their secret; unto their assembly, mine honour, be not thou united: for in their anger they slew a man, and in their selfwill they digged down a wall.

7Cursed be their anger, for it was fierce; and their wrath, for it was cruel: I will divide them in Jacob, and scatter them in Israel.

8Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.

9Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

10The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

11Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:

12His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk.

13Zebulun shall dwell at the haven of the sea; and he shall be for an haven of ships; and his border shall be unto Zidon.

14Issachar is a strong ass couching down between two burdens:

15And he saw that rest was good, and the land that it was pleasant; and bowed his shoulder to bear, and became a servant unto tribute.

16Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.

17Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.

18I have waited for thy salvation, O LORD

19Gad, a troop shall overcome him: but he shall overcome at the last.

20Out of Asher his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties.

21Naphtali is a hind let loose: he giveth goodly words.

22Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:

23The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:

24But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel

25Even by the God of thy father, who shall help thee; and by the Almighty, who shall bless thee with blessings of heaven above, blessings of the deep that lieth under, blessings of the breasts, and of the womb:

26The blessings of thy father have prevailed above the blessings of my progenitors unto the utmost bound of the everlasting hills: they shall be on the head of Joseph, and on the crown of the head of him that was separate from his brethren.

27Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil.




Whether you are of Israel or Judah, Benjamin is the beloved of God and Jerusalem was built in Benjamin because Benjamin was the only tribe in both kingdoms.


Benjamin was the only true brother of Joseph by the same mother, it is also why Benjamin occupies the Penthouse in Revelation, he is closest to God.
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Old 12-20-2021, 08:16 PM
 
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I thought there was one unforgiveable sin and that it was blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Is this correct?

I am asking because those who take the mark of the beast will 'not' be forgiven and will be damned to hell...

^Is this correct?
mark condition is limited by time.
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