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Since God controls our choices, mans will isnt free from Gods control, His Purpose, is that right ?
God controls every choice every person freely makes causing them to align with His unchangeable eternal plan. He controls us through the reasons He sends for us to base our choices on. Yet we choose what we want most based on these reasons so we incur the guilt or blessing that comes from the choice.
God controls every choice every person freely makes causing them to align with His unchangeable eternal plan. He controls us through the reasons He sends for us to base our choices on. Yet we choose what we want most based on these reasons so we incur the guilt or blessing that comes from the choice.
mans will isnt free from Gods control, His Purpose, is that right ? Yes or no please
Not only is mans will not free from the Sovereign control of Gods will and purpose, neither is mans free from his wicked sinful nature, for by nature we are all slaves to our sin nature which is controled by the devil. Eph 2:1-3
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
By nature, while spiritually dead, we walk according to the prince of the power of the air, a spirit that remains at work in the unbelievers, constituting them disobedient, and unfortunaetly there is no way to freewill ourselves out from under this control, and our wills are under this mighty control.
Jesus calls it being a servant or slave to sin Jn 8:34
34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
Folks this describes all of us by nature, until, if Jesus is so pleased, to quicken us from this spiritual death and slavery.
Free will turns God into a bully who makes people "say uncle" or do whatever their brand of religion tells them to do to save themselves. I.e., make decisions, use sacraments, etc., or He will torture them forever. This is a very nasty bully god.
It also makes God out to be a character who bribes people with rewards if they sell their souls to him after "saying uncle". This is salvation by works and has nothing to with God and salvation by grace. Grace instead saves a person when their will can only choose sin. and the Holy Spirit then bears witness in their hearts causing them to believe in and love Christ.
We have freewill. God wants us to choose to love Him.
Where do you get that Idea? We hate God and love our idols unless God gives us a supernatural change of heart. It's not in us to change. “And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.” Deuteronomy 30:6 (KJV 1900)
We have freewill. God wants us to choose to love Him.
Those God Loves shall love Him, 1 Jn 4:18-19
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
19 We love him, because he first loved us.
God first Loved His People He chose in Christ Jesus, and sooner or later, He gives them new spiritual life with a new heart to love Him Deut 30:6
And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Martin Luther overthrew the notion of free will with this simple point.
Paul teaches, Rom. vii. and Gal. v., that there is in the saints, and in the godly, so powerful a warfare between the spirit and the flesh, that they cannot do what they would. From this warfare I argue thus:
If the nature of man be so evil, even in those who are born again of the Spirit, that it does not only not endeavour after good, but is even averse to, and militates against good, how should it endeavour after good in those who are not born again of the Spirit, and who are still in the "old man," and serve under Satan?
Luther, Martin. The Bondage of the Will (p. 162). Neeland Media LLC. Kindle Edition.
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