Why Jesus was not needed for redemption! (believe, scripture, sinners)
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Redemption has always been acquired in the same manner and that is by serving God. Jesus was God’s way of showing a genuine servant. God the Father came as Jesus because rebel Israel rejected the prophets. So God came in order to show the way but also as a farewell because He left Israel to it’s own devices and won’t be back until the law and the prophets are recognized and His son is revered.
“The LORD redeems the lives of His servants, no one who takes refuge in Him incurs guilt.”
“Whoever seeks the glory of the One who sent him is truthful and there is no unrighteousness in him.”
“Observe what is right and do what is just for my salvation is near to attain, my justice about to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, the son of man who holds to it,” says the LORD
Only the son, the servant of God, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven!
Any chance you can agree or do you deny scripture?
Redemption has always been acquired in the same manner and that is by serving God. Jesus was God’s way of showing a genuine servant. God the Father came as Jesus because rebel Israel rejected the prophets. So God came in order to show the way but also as a farewell because He left Israel to it’s own devices and won’t be back until the law and the prophets are recognized and His son is revered.
“The LORD redeems the lives of His servants, no one who takes refuge in Him incurs guilt.”
“Whoever seeks the glory of the One who sent him is truthful and there is no unrighteousness in him.”
“Observe what is right and do what is just for my salvation is near to attain, my justice about to be revealed. Blessed is the man who does this, the son of man who holds to it,” says the LORD
Only the son, the servant of God, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven!
Any chance you can agree or do you deny scripture?
You can be very myopic in my opinion
Other Scripture disagrees with your basic premise
Jesus is not looking for those that are already righteous, he is looking and seeking those that have gone astray, even so astray that that they are in the grave and to bring them back to either life or health
His whole purpose was of service and ransom, giving his own life for others benefit, healing, saving, etc
Mat 20:24**And when the ten heard it, they were moved with indignation against the two brethren.
Mat 20:25**But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
Mat 20:26**But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
Mat 20:27**And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
Mat 20:28**Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Mat 9:11**And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
Mat 9:12**But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
Mat 9:13**But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Jesus is not looking for those that are already righteous, he is looking and seeking those that have gone astray, even so astray that that they are in the grave and to bring them back to either life or health
His whole purpose was of service and ransom, giving his own life for others benefit, healing, saving, etc
Mat 20:24**And when the ten heard it, they were moved with indignation against the two brethren.
Mat 20:25**But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them.
Mat 20:26**But it shall not be so among you: but whosoever will be great among you, let him be your minister;
Mat 20:27**And whosoever will be chief among you, let him be your servant:
Mat 20:28**Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Mat 9:11**And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
Mat 9:12**But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
Mat 9:13**But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
Yes. Jesus came to serve as the prophets before Him had. No difference. They gave up their lives as well. The cross was not to forgive sin. No one can pay for another’s sin. Scripture bears it out.
The only way Christians can say otherwise is by using scripture they really do not understand. Failing to know who the son of God is and who the son of man is is part of Christianity’s downfall.
Christianity does not follow Jesus. It makes His teaching moot.
These prophets needed redemption, as most of the prophets in the Old Testament were alive before Jesus in the earth in the timeline of the bible, as the people of Israel were redeemed through the House of Isaac covenant with the Lord, and were redeemed of sin during Yom Kippur feast ...... Where Jesus on the cross became the promise of the Yom Kippur today which is not needed for Christians in the new covenant....... Christians were saved through the righteousness of Jesus Christ and Him alone , as the righteousness of people without Jesus righteousness is as dirty rags
Jhn 14:6, Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Rom 5:9, Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
Mat 7:13, Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Mat 7:14, Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
These prophets needed redemption, as most of the prophets in the Old Testament were alive before Jesus in the earth in the timeline of the bible, as the people of Israel were redeemed through the House of Isaac covenant with the Lord, and were redeemed of sin during Yom Kippur feast ...... Where Jesus on the cross became the promise of the Yom Kippur today which is not needed for Christians in the new covenant....... Christians were saved through the righteousness of Jesus Christ and Him alone , as the righteousness of people without Jesus righteousness is as dirty rags
Sorry, Jesus message was the same as the others and that was and is to worship in spirit and in truth.
“Genuine worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth for it is just such worshippers the Father seeks for God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”
Sorry, Jesus message was the same as the others and that was and is to worship in spirit and in truth.
“Genuine worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth for it is just such worshippers the Father seeks for God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.”
Which you are not doing if you believe that Jesus isn't the only way to salvation.
Free4you considers himself to be the Son of Man, the equal of Jesus. Hard to reason with someone who thinks that, brother.
“When a student has finished his studies in the kingdom of heaven he becomes like his teacher and can bring forth the old as well as the new.” (Jesus)
Guess you doubt Jesus.
“Stay awake or you won’t know when your lord has come.”
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