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Old 08-17-2022, 07:38 PM
 
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Jesus came to earth to minister to as many as possible about the good news of Gods coming kingdom. Some of you seem to think it is bad news what God has to do. Armageddon is the ushering in of that kingdom rule over all the earth. It will never end. God has warned mankind for the last over 1900 years that it will come. And it is righteous war when Jesus leads Gods armies to this earth to wipe out the wicked and all wicked things. Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then under Gods kingdom rule. No more war, hatred, greed, lying, disease, sickness, starvation, mates cheating on one another, etc,etc It will be a cure all. Man made back to perfection, earth transformed into a complete Eden( Paradise) Everything living in harmony, dead loved ones resurrected and given a chance--That is good news, or do some of you think that this current system( 2Tim 3) is better and should go on? Only the wicked need fear what is coming. God will protect his people and bring them through( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22)-- satan has 99% mislead but you will not believe truth over the lies satan has the world believing and all the false god worship.
The God of Israel=The Abrahamic God= a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) -- trinity scholars know 100% the God of Israel is that God. Why wont they tell truth? Israel served the true God.
No matter what anyone thinks does or says, it is 100% fact, the trinity was created in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople, it does not exist. It is satan posing as he is with all false gods. Misleading billions into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily--every one of them will lose. Satan is taking all he can with him. It takes believing Jesus over errors-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--And even in the OT they knew that fact-Psalm 45:7

Jehovah is the only true God. The door is still open, the time is running out.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:53 PM
 
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No matter what anyone thinks does or says, it is 100% fact, the trinity was created in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople, it does not exist.
Well, it is 100% fact that every portion of the bible was created at different times; across over a thousand years, actually. So, believe what you want, that's your prerogative, but your belief is based on your faith. And other people's belief is based on their faith. But none of it is actually rooted in "fact", as most of the bible was written many, many, many years after the fact from memories of spoken word (or completely made up, if that is what you believe).

So, I am not sure what you post is trying to accomplish? Changing people's beliefs? Not going to happen.
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Old 08-17-2022, 08:22 PM
 
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Jesus came to earth to minister to as many as possible about the good news of Gods coming kingdom. Some of you seem to think it is bad news what God has to do. Armageddon is the ushering in of that kingdom rule over all the earth. It will never end. God has warned mankind for the last over 1900 years that it will come. And it is righteous war when Jesus leads Gods armies to this earth to wipe out the wicked and all wicked things. Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then under Gods kingdom rule. No more war, hatred, greed, lying, disease, sickness, starvation, mates cheating on one another, etc,etc It will be a cure all. Man made back to perfection, earth transformed into a complete Eden( Paradise) Everything living in harmony, dead loved ones resurrected and given a chance--That is good news, or do some of you think that this current system( 2Tim 3) is better and should go on? Only the wicked need fear what is coming. God will protect his people and bring them through( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22)-- satan has 99% mislead but you will not believe truth over the lies satan has the world believing and all the false god worship.
The God of Israel=The Abrahamic God= a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) -- trinity scholars know 100% the God of Israel is that God. Why wont they tell truth? Israel served the true God.
No matter what anyone thinks does or says, it is 100% fact, the trinity was created in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople, it does not exist. It is satan posing as he is with all false gods. Misleading billions into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily--every one of them will lose. Satan is taking all he can with him. It takes believing Jesus over errors-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--And even in the OT they knew that fact-Psalm 45:7

Jehovah is the only true God. The door is still open, the time is running out.
Your claim that the Trinity was created in AD 381 at the council of Constantinople is demonstrably false since Tertullian who lived from AD 155 to AD 220 wrote his work 'Against Praxeas' in the early 210's in which he defends the Trinity devoting several chapters to the subject beginning with chapter 2 which I post below.
Against Praxeas

CHAPTER 2 -- THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY AND UNITY, SOMETIMES CALLED THE DIVINE ECONOMY, OR DISPENSATION OF THE PERSONAL RELATIONS OF THE GODHEAD.

In the course of time, then, the Father forsooth was born, and the Father suffered,God Himself, the Lord Almighty, whom in their preaching they declare to be Jesus Christ. We, however, as we indeed always have done and more especially since we have been better instructed by the Paraclete, who leads men indeed into all truth), believe that there is one only God, but under the following dispensation, or oikonomia, as it is called, that this one only God has also a Son, His Word, who proceeded from Himself, by whom all things were made, and without whom nothing was made. Him we believe to have been sent by the Father into the Virgin, and to have been born of her -- being both Man and God, the Son of Man and the Son of God, and to have been called by the name of Jesus Christ; we believe Him to have suffered, died, and been buried, according to the Scriptures, and, after He had been raised again by the Father and taken back to heaven, to be sitting at the right hand of the Father, and that He will come to judge the quick and the dead; who sent also from heaven from the Father, according to His own promise, the Holy Ghost, the Paraclete, the sanctifier of the faith of those who believe in the Father, and in the Son, and in the Holy Ghost. That this rule of faith has come down to us from the beginning of the gospel, even before any of the older heretics, much more before Praxeas, a pretender of yesterday, will be apparent both from the lateness of date which marks all heresies, and also from the absolutely novel character of our new-fangled Praxeas. In this principle also we must henceforth find a presumption of equal force against all heresies whatsoever -- that whatever is first is true, whereas that is spurious which is later in date. But keeping this prescriptive rule inviolate, still some opportunity must be given for reviewing (the statements of heretics), with a view to the instruction and protection of divers persons; were it only that it may not seem that each perversion of the truth is condemned without examination, and simply prejudged; especially in the case of this heresy, which supposes itself to possess the pure truth, in thinking that one cannot believe in One Only God in any other way than by saying that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are the very selfsame Person. As if in this way also one were not All, in that All are of One, by unity (that is) of substance; while the mystery of the dispensation is still guarded, which distributes the Unity into a Trinity, placing in their order the three Persons -- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost: three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in substance, but in form; not in power, but in aspect; yet of one substance, and of one condition, and of one power, inasmuch as He is one God, from whom these degrees and forms and aspects are reckoned, under the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. How they are susceptible of number without division, will be shown as our treatise proceeds.

Tertullian (Roberts-Donaldson)
As you surely must be able to understand, the early 200's came before the late 300's. And since Tertullian wrote concerning the Trinity in the early 200's the claim that the Trinity wasn't invented until AD. 380 simply has no validity.
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Old 08-17-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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Jesus came to earth to minister to as many as possible about the good news of Gods coming kingdom. Some of you seem to think it is bad news what God has to do. Armageddon is the ushering in of that kingdom rule over all the earth. It will never end. God has warned mankind for the last over 1900 years that it will come. And it is righteous war when Jesus leads Gods armies to this earth to wipe out the wicked and all wicked things. Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then under Gods kingdom rule. No more war, hatred, greed, lying, disease, sickness, starvation, mates cheating on one another, etc,etc It will be a cure all. Man made back to perfection, earth transformed into a complete Eden( Paradise) Everything living in harmony, dead loved ones resurrected and given a chance--That is good news, or do some of you think that this current system( 2Tim 3) is better and should go on? Only the wicked need fear what is coming. God will protect his people and bring them through( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22)-- satan has 99% mislead but you will not believe truth over the lies satan has the world believing and all the false god worship.
The God of Israel=The Abrahamic God= a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) -- trinity scholars know 100% the God of Israel is that God. Why wont they tell truth? Israel served the true God.
No matter what anyone thinks does or says, it is 100% fact, the trinity was created in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople, it does not exist. It is satan posing as he is with all false gods. Misleading billions into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily--every one of them will lose. Satan is taking all he can with him. It takes believing Jesus over errors-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--And even in the OT they knew that fact-Psalm 45:7

Jehovah is the only true God. The door is still open, the time is running out.
Have you seen God, Jehovah, the Father?
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Old 08-17-2022, 09:13 PM
 
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Turtullian lol.

Catholic doctrine?


What in the world
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Old 08-18-2022, 03:22 AM
 
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Many fallen churches may not know
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Old 08-18-2022, 04:22 AM
 
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Jesus came to earth to minister to as many as possible about the good news of Gods coming kingdom. Some of you seem to think it is bad news what God has to do. Armageddon is the ushering in of that kingdom rule over all the earth. It will never end. God has warned mankind for the last over 1900 years that it will come. And it is righteous war when Jesus leads Gods armies to this earth to wipe out the wicked and all wicked things. Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then under Gods kingdom rule. No more war, hatred, greed, lying, disease, sickness, starvation, mates cheating on one another, etc,etc It will be a cure all. Man made back to perfection, earth transformed into a complete Eden( Paradise) Everything living in harmony, dead loved ones resurrected and given a chance--That is good news, or do some of you think that this current system( 2Tim 3) is better and should go on? Only the wicked need fear what is coming. God will protect his people and bring them through( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22)-- satan has 99% mislead but you will not believe truth over the lies satan has the world believing and all the false god worship.
The God of Israel=The Abrahamic God= a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) -- trinity scholars know 100% the God of Israel is that God. Why wont they tell truth? Israel served the true God.
No matter what anyone thinks does or says, it is 100% fact, the trinity was created in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople, it does not exist. It is satan posing as he is with all false gods. Misleading billions into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily--every one of them will lose. Satan is taking all he can with him. It takes believing Jesus over errors-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--And even in the OT they knew that fact-Psalm 45:7

Jehovah is the only true God. The door is still open, the time is running out.
If you study the gospels, the kingdom is already here. But only the born-again can see and take part in it. He says the kingdom is within you, how can it be anything physical? The Trinity was not created. He is eternal God, only defined in the creeds.
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Old 08-18-2022, 05:31 AM
 
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Jesus came to earth to minister to as many as possible about the good news of Gods coming kingdom. Some of you seem to think it is bad news what God has to do. Armageddon is the ushering in of that kingdom rule over all the earth. It will never end. God has warned mankind for the last over 1900 years that it will come. And it is righteous war when Jesus leads Gods armies to this earth to wipe out the wicked and all wicked things. Satan will be abyssed for 1000 years. Then under Gods kingdom rule. No more war, hatred, greed, lying, disease, sickness, starvation, mates cheating on one another, etc,etc It will be a cure all. Man made back to perfection, earth transformed into a complete Eden( Paradise) Everything living in harmony, dead loved ones resurrected and given a chance--That is good news, or do some of you think that this current system( 2Tim 3) is better and should go on? Only the wicked need fear what is coming. God will protect his people and bring them through( Prov 2:21-22, Matt 24:22)-- satan has 99% mislead but you will not believe truth over the lies satan has the world believing and all the false god worship.
The God of Israel=The Abrahamic God= a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) -- trinity scholars know 100% the God of Israel is that God. Why wont they tell truth? Israel served the true God.
No matter what anyone thinks does or says, it is 100% fact, the trinity was created in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople, it does not exist. It is satan posing as he is with all false gods. Misleading billions into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily--every one of them will lose. Satan is taking all he can with him. It takes believing Jesus over errors-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--And even in the OT they knew that fact-Psalm 45:7

Jehovah is the only true God. The door is still open, the time is running out.
Jesus is YHWH!

The kingdom is here. It is the sovereign rule and reign of Christ in the hearts of men.

“But if I cast out demons with the finger of God, surely the kingdom of God has come upon you.” (Luke 11:20)

“Being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, he answered them, “The kingdom of God is not coming in ways that can be observed, 21 nor will they say, ‘Look, here it is!’ or ‘There!’ for behold, the kingdom of God is in the midst of you.” (Luke 17:21)

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Old 08-18-2022, 06:22 AM
 
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The God of Israel=The Abrahamic God= a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) -- trinity scholars know 100% the God of Israel is that God. Why wont they tell truth? Israel served the true God.
You've been told this many times. But the doctrine of the Trinity does not suggest that there is more than 1 God or that the God of Israel is not God. We believe in one God. Only one God. Please at least give an effort to represent our beliefs honestly.
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No matter what anyone thinks does or says, it is 100% fact, the trinity was created in 381 ce at the council of Constantinople, it does not exist. It is satan posing as he is with all false gods. Misleading billions into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily--every one of them will lose. Satan is taking all he can with him. It takes believing Jesus over errors-John 20:17, Rev 3:12--And even in the OT they knew that fact-Psalm 45:7

Jehovah is the only true God. The door is still open, the time is running out.
Yet, I can actually quote you all sorts of passages, and have quoted passages to you that demonstrate that the Trinity is a Biblical concept. The apostles taught it. Again, please try to honestly address our views.
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