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Old 05-29-2008, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Seward, Alaska
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Do you think these healings are real? My pastor does, and actually went to this revival. I have a mixed bag of feelings about it. The evangelist is a heavily tatooed and pierced ex-biker with an offbeat way of ministering, that many are suspicously critical of. But...if God is working through him, why not go? I mean, what's to lose...especially if the doctors have given up hope? Still trying to sort it all out. Right now I'm thinking some of the people genuinely got healed, and a lot of them didn't. And some of them probably think they got healed, but nothing has really changed. It's one of those "according to your faith" kind of things. What's the difference between real faith, and believing, for a healing? Have any of you gone to one of these meetings, and recieved healing? What were you healed of? Did your doctor confirm it?

Revivalist claims hundreds of healings - Field Notes - msnbc.com


Bud
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Old 05-29-2008, 09:18 PM
 
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My pastors love him. I did get supernaturally healed of depression when I surrendered my life to Jesus. One of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is joy. I had joy and couldn't stop smiling. I still have joy. It is written that there is a gift of healing. In the book of John it is written that we shall do greater works than Jesus because he is with the father. These signs shall follow them that believe they shall lay their their hands on the sick and they shall recover. That's not the whole verse. It also says speaking in tongues, drinking anything poisonous, and handling snakes. Just quoting from memory. Of course I don't know anyone that handles snakes. But if I were threatened by one this is a nice verse to know. As far as his looks, God can use whomever he wishes. Sometimes the people that you wouldn't think God should choose are the very ones he does. We all should be praying for the sick and believing for healing. You go Todd Bentley!
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:58 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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I think it is a wonderful outpouring of the power of God, and a sign that Jesus will be here soon. Whether the healing "sticks" really does depend on the measure of faith that the person being healed has. And sometimes, it's just not in God's plan for someone to be healed. But I do feel this is a genuine healing crusade that's happening and so do a lot of Christians. It's been covered on CBN and everyone there thinks it is fabulous. We need more of it!!! Just having the Spirit of God moving among people alone is exciting.
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Old 05-31-2008, 10:38 AM
 
Location: South Florida
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Reminds me of this guy. I went to see him in Miami in my Christian days back in the late 80s I think and the place was packed. I even bought his book and that was really the last I heard of him until I received word he was a lying thief.

As a Christian I stopped trusting the Benn Hinn's of the world and those of his ilk. Certainly I do not trust ANY of them now as an unbeliever and I think they are all jokers feasting on the gullibility and desperation of people. I am not saying that these guys get into these things initially to fleece people, but after fooling themselves that they are something special and they act upon it and start these "ministries," it is only a matter of time before they quickly notice the amount of loot they can make and even if they had a heart and wanted to quit, they can't for fear of reprisal. They can't retire from doing "God's work."

I sure don't trust this guy and I am willing to bet my bottom dollar, we will hear not so good news about him in the future. I tell people all the time that if I did not have a heart, I would, by now, have had my own church, lots of money and probably sleeping with all kinds of desperate, lonely women in and out of the church and STILL have a faithful following. I saw that potential just as I was leaving the Christian cult.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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After watching the streaming video on the healers website. The verse came to mind, and they shall cast out devils in my name, and do many wonderful works, and I will say, be gone from me, Ye that worketh iniquity, I never knew you.

It just doesn't feel like a work of God, from the website selling its doves and trinkets, to the auditory stimulation during the healings, getting people all worked up, it is not still.

I don't see Jesus or the Apostles going about healing and sharing the good news in this manner.

godspeed,

freedom
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:22 AM
 
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I think it is a wonderful outpouring of the power of God, and a sign that Jesus will be here soon. Whether the healing "sticks" really does depend on the measure of faith that the person being healed has. And sometimes, it's just not in God's plan for someone to be healed. But I do feel this is a genuine healing crusade that's happening and so do a lot of Christians. It's been covered on CBN and everyone there thinks it is fabulous. We need more of it!!! Just having the Spirit of God moving among people alone is exciting.
Why would God take a healing back if your measure of faith wasn't strong enough? That seems odd to me.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:46 AM
 
Location: SC Foothills
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Why would God take a healing back if your measure of faith wasn't strong enough? That seems odd to me.
That's not really what I meant. Sometimes people get caught up in the excitement, and believe that they were actually healed when they may not have been. Sometimes the effects are immediate, sometimes it takes a while for the effects to show up, sometimes it doesn't happen at all. God doesn't take it away. Faith is a very important factor, but God's will and plan may not always include healing, for whatever reason. It's not really for us to know, all will be revealed when we reach heaven. It is confusing and hard to understand, but God's plan prevails.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:29 PM
 
Location: arizona ... most of the time
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Why would God take a healing back if your measure of faith wasn't strong enough? That seems odd to me.
I was going to ask this same question, but in a different way.
For example: the nine lepers who didn't come back to praise Jesus or the servant that Peter cut off his ear. Do we know the amount of faith they had?

But we do know that the amount of faith one has doesn't affects Gods "sending rain"
Matthew 5:45
"He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."
It certianly a blessing for rain and sun to come for crops. But "rain\sun" can also represent things like "good health", "wages" "safety"

For me, I'm very skeptical of "Healing Revivals". The Bible verse that speaks to me when I hear about Healing Revivals:
Matthew 7:22
"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'

To me, the more we hear of such things, the less that its from God.

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Old 05-31-2008, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Socialist Republik of Amerika
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I was going to ask this same question, but in a different way.
For example: the nine lepers who didn't come back to praise Jesus or the servant that Peter cut off his ear. Do we know the amount of faith they had?

But we do know that the amount of faith one has doesn't affects Gods "sending rain"
Matthew 5:45
"He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."
It certianly a blessing for rain and sun to come for crops. But "rain\sun" can also represent things like "good health", "wages" "safety"


For me, I'm very skeptical of "Healing Revivals". The Bible verse that speaks to me when I hear about Healing Revivals:
Matthew 7:22
"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'

To me, the more we hear of such things, the less that its from God.
Could not agree more, there is deception in the ranks of professed believers, going about putting on a show of demon-stration. If one needs a healing, let them ask God, and have your peers in Christ join in prayer.

Correction is there also, within the power of the Spirit.
The couple that withheld from the group that pooled their resources in Acts, that dropped dead at the word of the Apostle when he said, why do you sin against the Holy Ghost.

Scripture records that when Jesus healed He would say, go and sin no more, lest a worse thing befall thee.
Our actions can undo our blessings.

godspeed,

freedom
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