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My question would be whether all these other planets/people had to go through the "Garden" experiment. And I'd be curious if they got Satan assigned to their planet if they failed said Garden experiment. Or if they would get a different "Devil" due to interstellar travel issues.
My question would be whether all these other planets/people had to go through the "Garden" experiment. And I'd be curious if they got Satan assigned to their planet if they failed said Garden experiment. Or if they would get a different "Devil" due to interstellar travel issues.
You might enjoy C.S. Lewis' Space Trilogy if you haven't already read it.
For me, not at all. God created the entire universe, after all. Although I would really hope that Satan didn't make the rounds of the whole universe.
Our Bible is earth-centric. Off-earth life would have their own "message".
But for some, it is a "threatening" topic. How about you-all?
I would disagree that the bible is earth centric but rather say that there are earths out there and they have the bible also, but not only that, but that if their timeline is exactly like ours, then somebody with your name, and somebody with my name are having the same conversation at the same time about the same thing.
About 22 years ago, Muslims brought down the two towers that stood in their New York.
Revelation 2 is what convinces me of other worlds because the second chapter makes absolutely shocking promises to each overcomer saying the each one will have its own rule overr an entire earth, and this isnt possible on this one earth.
Just my ooinions
The overcomer obtains all the promises and prophesies of Jesus, all of them.
What this means is that an overcomer will be gathered up and sent to its own earth where it has complete rule just as Adam was given, and Jesus just became the new Adam to some.
It means that an overcomer will be born on an earth where at some point he realizes who he is and begins his ministry where a man named John will baptize him, and a dove will come down and everyone will hear the father's voice saying, " This is my son in whom I am well pleased."
If in fact there are other Earths with people, then there can be no doubt that a Messiah will be sent just as Adam, and just as Jesus.
Adam was lain down in a sleep of death so that a bride could be taken from his own body to create his own wife where he becomes a spirit inside his bride after he has died.
This is the story of all Adams, the story of the first Adam, and the same story as the second Adam.
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I would disagree that the bible is earth centric but rather say that there are earths out there and they have the bible also, but not only that, but that if their timeline is exactly like ours, then somebody with your name, and somebody with my name are having the same conversation at the same time about the same thing.
About 22 years ago, Muslims brought down the two towers that stood in their New York.
Revelation 2 is what convinces me of other worlds because the second chapter makes absolutely shocking promises to each overcomer saying the each one will have its own rule overr an entire earth, and this isnt pooossible on this one earth.
The overcomer obtains all the promises and prophesies of Jesus, all of them.
What this means is that an overcomer will be gathered up and sent to its own earth where it has complete rule just as Adam was given, and Jesus just became the new Adam to some.
It means that an overcomer will be born on an earth where at some point he realizes who he is and begins his ministry where a man named John will baptize him, and a dove will come down and everyone will hear the father's voice saying, " This is my son in whom I am well pleased."
If in fact there are other Earths with people, then there can be no doubt that a Messiah will be sent just as Adam, and just as Jesus.
Adam was lain down in a sleep of death so that a bride could be taken from his own body to create his own wife where he becomes a spirit inside his bride after he has died.
This is the story of all Adams, the story of the first Adam, and the same story as the second Adam.
Revelation 2
Young's Literal Translation
2 `To the messenger of the Ephesian assembly write: These things saith he who is holding the seven stars in his right hand, who is walking in the midst of the seven lamp-stands -- the golden:
2 I have known thy works, and thy labour, and thy endurance, and that thou art not able to bear evil ones, and that thou hast tried those saying themselves to be apostles and are not, and hast found them liars,
3 and thou didst bear, and hast endurance, and because of my name hast toiled, and hast not been weary.
4 `But I have against thee: That thy first love thou didst leave!
5 remember, then, whence thou hast fallen, and reform, and the first works do; and if not, I come to thee quickly, and will remove thy lamp-stand from its place -- if thou mayest not reform;
6 but this thou hast, that thou dost hate the works of the Nicolaitans, that I also hate.
7 He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: To him who is overcoming -- I will give to him to eat of the tree of life that is in the midst of the paradise of God.
8 `And to the messenger of the assembly of the Smyrneans write: These things saith the First and the Last, who did become dead and did live;
9 I have known thy works, and tribulation, and poverty -- yet thou art rich -- and the evil-speaking of those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but [are] a synagogue of the Adversary.
10 `Be not afraid of the things that thou art about to suffer; lo, the devil is about to cast of you to prison, that ye may be tried, and ye shall have tribulation ten days; become thou faithful unto death, and I will give to thee the crown of the life.
11 He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: He who is overcoming may not be injured of the second death.
12 `And to the messenger of the assembly in Pergamos write: These things saith he who is having the sharp two-edged sword:
13 I have known thy works, and where thou dost dwell -- where the throne of the Adversary [is] -- and thou dost hold fast my name, and thou didst not deny my faith, even in the days in which Antipas [was] my faithful witness, who was put to death beside you, where the Adversary doth dwell.
14 `But I have against thee a few things: That thou hast there those holding the teaching of Balaam, who did teach Balak to cast a stumbling-block before the sons of Israel, to eat idol-sacrifices, and to commit whoredom;
15 so hast thou, even thou, those holding the teaching of the Nicolaitans -- which thing I hate.
16 `Reform! and if not, I come to thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
17 He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: To him who is overcoming, I will give to him to eat from the hidden manna, and will give to him a white stone, and upon the stone a new name written, that no one knew except him who is receiving [it].
18 `And to the messenger of the assembly of Thyatira write: These things saith the Son of God, who is having his eyes as a flame of fire, and his feet like to fine brass;
19 I have known thy works, and love, and ministration, and faith, and thy endurance, and thy works -- and the last [are] more than the first.
20 `But I have against thee a few things: That thou dost suffer the woman Jezebel, who is calling herself a prophetess, to teach, and to lead astray, my servants to commit whoredom, and idol-sacrifices to eat;
21 and I did give to her a time that she might reform from her whoredom, and she did not reform;
22 lo, I will cast her into a couch, and those committing adultery with her into great tribulation -- if they may not repent of their works,
23 and her children I will kill in death, and know shall all the assemblies that I am he who is searching reins and hearts; and I will give to you -- to each -- according to your works.
24 `And to you I say, and to the rest who are in Thyatira, as many as have not this teaching, and who did not know the depths of the Adversary, as they say; I will not put upon you other burden;
25 but that which ye have -- hold ye, till I may come;
26 and he who is overcoming, and who is keeping unto the end my works, I will give to him authority over the nations,
27 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron -- as the vessels of the potter they shall be broken -- as I also have received from my Father;
28 and I will give to him the morning star.
29 He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies.
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... and then the man from the future tried to explain the inner workings of a computer chip, and the camel herder later remarked, "It was Greek to me...."
For me, not at all. God created the entire universe, after all. Although I would really hope that Satan didn't make the rounds of the whole universe.
Our Bible is earth-centric. Off-earth life would have their own "message"."
But for some, it is a "threatening" topic. How about you-all?
Actually, it would increase my faith, because my denomination actually teaches that "long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away," (so to speak ) God created "words without number." And as far as we know, He may still be creating more today. (That's not to say that we believe they are within our solar system.) When we sing "How Great Thou Art," instead of singing "when I, in awesome wonder, consider all the works thy hands have made," we sing "when I, in awesome wonder, consider all the worlds thy hands have made." Why on earth would believing that God has created even more than we know is out there bother anyone?
Many wicked spirits of the earth could go out to outer space even some could visit other planets, But the universe is sterile of life and the spirits would be isolated, so they are stuck on the earth ....... Seen a wicked alien which came in my home when I was asleep, There was two orb round star with a face in the middle of the round orb ufo... God said ``It's a witch`` so I grabbed and smashed its face and rebuked it to Jesus and there were men in black coat in the background, and they all got rebuked right out of sight By Lord Jesus Spirit. ``Glory to God`` ............ does not threaten faith in God just confirmed the truth that motivated God to help His creation
Revelation 2
Young's Literal Translation
2 `To the messenger of the Ephesian assembly write: These things saith he who is holding the seven stars in his right hand, who is walking in the midst of the seven lamp-stands -- the golden:
2 I have known thy works, and thy labour, and thy endurance, and that thou art not able to bear evil ones, and that thou hast tried those saying themselves to be apostles and are not, and hast found them liars,
3 and thou didst bear, and hast endurance, and because of my name hast toiled, and hast not been weary.
4 `But I have against thee: That thy first love thou didst leave!
5 remember, then, whence thou hast fallen, and reform, and the first works do; and if not, I come to thee quickly, and will remove thy lamp-stand from its place -- if thou mayest not reform;
6 but this thou hast, that thou dost hate the works of the Nicolaitans, that I also hate.
7 He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: To him who is overcoming -- I will give to him to eat of the tree of life that is in the midst of the paradise of God.
8 `And to the messenger of the assembly of the Smyrneans write: These things saith the First and the Last, who did become dead and did live;
9 I have known thy works, and tribulation, and poverty -- yet thou art rich -- and the evil-speaking of those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but [are] a synagogue of the Adversary.
10 `Be not afraid of the things that thou art about to suffer; lo, the devil is about to cast of you to prison, that ye may be tried, and ye shall have tribulation ten days; become thou faithful unto death, and I will give to thee the crown of the life.
11 He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: He who is overcoming may not be injured of the second death.
12 `And to the messenger of the assembly in Pergamos write: These things saith he who is having the sharp two-edged sword:
13 I have known thy works, and where thou dost dwell -- where the throne of the Adversary [is] -- and thou dost hold fast my name, and thou didst not deny my faith, even in the days in which Antipas [was] my faithful witness, who was put to death beside you, where the Adversary doth dwell.
14 `But I have against thee a few things: That thou hast there those holding the teaching of Balaam, who did teach Balak to cast a stumbling-block before the sons of Israel, to eat idol-sacrifices, and to commit whoredom;
15 so hast thou, even thou, those holding the teaching of the Nicolaitans -- which thing I hate.
16 `Reform! and if not, I come to thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
17 He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies: To him who is overcoming, I will give to him to eat from the hidden manna, and will give to him a white stone, and upon the stone a new name written, that no one knew except him who is receiving [it].
18 `And to the messenger of the assembly of Thyatira write: These things saith the Son of God, who is having his eyes as a flame of fire, and his feet like to fine brass;
19 I have known thy works, and love, and ministration, and faith, and thy endurance, and thy works -- and the last [are] more than the first.
20 `But I have against thee a few things: That thou dost suffer the woman Jezebel, who is calling herself a prophetess, to teach, and to lead astray, my servants to commit whoredom, and idol-sacrifices to eat;
21 and I did give to her a time that she might reform from her whoredom, and she did not reform;
22 lo, I will cast her into a couch, and those committing adultery with her into great tribulation -- if they may not repent of their works,
23 and her children I will kill in death, and know shall all the assemblies that I am he who is searching reins and hearts; and I will give to you -- to each -- according to your works.
24 `And to you I say, and to the rest who are in Thyatira, as many as have not this teaching, and who did not know the depths of the Adversary, as they say; I will not put upon you other burden;
25 but that which ye have -- hold ye, till I may come;
26 and he who is overcoming, and who is keeping unto the end my works, I will give to him authority over the nations,
27 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron -- as the vessels of the potter they shall be broken -- as I also have received from my Father;
28 and I will give to him the morning star.
29 He who is having an ear -- let him hear what the Spirit saith to the assemblies.
You've quoted a lot of scripture there. What is the conclusion you've personally drawn from it all?
Actually, it would increase my faith, because my denomination actually teaches that "long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away," (so to speak ) God created "words without number." And as far as we know, He may still be creating more today. (That's not to say that we believe they are within our solar system.) When we sing "How Great Thou Art," instead of singing "when I, in awesome wonder, consider all the works thy hands have made," we sing "when I, in awesome wonder, consider all the worlds thy hands have made." Why on earth would believing that God has created even more than we know is out there bother anyone?
I can only be reminded by what Einstein said, time is an illusion, my life has already been written because the beginning exists and the end exists, we are only viewers within a timeline where the present is no more valid than the future or the past.
We could build an unmanned ship and send it a million years in the future, thats reality.
What is historical fact in the future where we send that ship is established fact, it happened.
It is lol.
Its hard to imagine that any of us could be any different or change what already is.
We been pranked.
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) God created "words without number." And as far as we know, He may still be creating more today. (That's not to say that we believe they are within our solar system.) When we sing "How Great Thou Art," instead of singing "when I, in awesome wonder, consider all the works thy hands have made," we sing "when I, in awesome wonder, consider all the worlds thy hands have made." Why on earth would believing that God has created even more than we know is out there bother anyone? 
