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Your right, and maybe some churches need to disolve if the men are so far away from the truth that they can't keep the word alive and growing.
In the house, its different, because children are involved in a grander scale.
Men have fallen down and so the family has gone with it.
The divorce rate is proof of Man's failure to put God first in house and church.
godspeed,
freedom
I agree that, in the home, it would be a different situation, especially if there are children involved. Although, biblically, a wife is still supposed to submit to her husband. The Bible doesn't say just when things are good. It's a very difficult position that some Godly women are in.
I think it's unfair to blame the divorce rate on men, though. There are far too many factors involved in divorce to lay blame in that way. But, I will say this, lack of a Godly marriage is definitely the #1 (and only) cause of divorce.
I agree that, in the home, it would be a different situation, especially if there are children involved. Although, biblically, a wife is still supposed to submit to her husband. The Bible doesn't say just when things are good. It's a very difficult position that some Godly women are in.
She is, and ideally the man is loving her as Christ loves the church.
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I think it's unfair to blame the divorce rate on men, though. There are far too many factors involved in divorce to lay blame in that way. But, I will say this, lack of a Godly marriage is definitely the #1 (and only) cause of divorce.
Sure there are plenty of examples of women messing up marriages, but the man is most accountable and most often the primary moving force of divorce. Men have not lived according to the principles that Christ taught and the judgement will be on our shoulders. We can't be head of the household and excuse ourselves when it crumbles.
In my experience well over 80% of the divorces i know of are from the husband committing adultery.
Women desire a man that does not stray from the ranch, that honors God and family, and treats his helpmate with kindness and love. When all of those are present, then divorce is not an issue.
I have serious issues with men saying women should "submit to their husbands". This is pretty far out there, and way out of the mainstream, and at least borderline discrimination against women, IMO.
I know my parents go to some nutty church that holds this philosophy, that wives should "submit", but they sure don't follow it in the home. My mom bosses my dad left and right! What if a husban beats his wife? Refuses to help around the house? Won't help with kids? Why should a woman "submit" to such a man?
I have serious issues with men saying women should "submit to their husbands". This is pretty far out there, and way out of the mainstream, and at least borderline discrimination against women, IMO.
I know my parents go to some nutty church that holds this philosophy, that wives should "submit",
Your ''issues" are with the word of God, and the "nutty church" is only holding to the word of God.
I have serious issues with men saying women should "submit to their husbands". This is pretty far out there, and way out of the mainstream, and at least borderline discrimination against women, IMO.
I know my parents go to some nutty church that holds this philosophy, that wives should "submit", but they sure don't follow it in the home. My mom bosses my dad left and right! What if a husban beats his wife? Refuses to help around the house? Won't help with kids? Why should a woman "submit" to such a man?
As my earlier post explained, this issue has nothing to do with chauvinism or any other such thing, discrimination included. It's not about men being better than women. This is simply how God ordained it to be. That's enough for me. As Marianmark said, you're issues are with God, not the people who follow His word.
A person cannot pick apart the Bible and believe what they like and disregard the rest. St. Augustine said it best when he said, "If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself."
It's either the inspired, inerrant Word of God and every Word of it applies today just as it did in the beginning, or it's all just one big fairy tale. There is no middle ground on this. Also, the Bible wasn't intended to be made more modern with the times.
So...are you going to rip out all the letters Paul wrote? If you do you will have a very small bible. And I believe that would come under 'taking away' from the word of God!!!!
So...are you going to rip out all the letters Paul wrote? If you do you will have a very small bible. And I believe that would come under 'taking away' from the word of God!!!!
The canonization of the new testament has already done that. We are already reading an incomplete record.
Fortunately God has written and will write His word upon our hearts as we ask, seek, and knock.
The canonization of the new testament has already done that. We are already reading an incomplete record.
Fortunately God has written and will write His word upon our hearts as we ask, seek, and knock.
godspeed,
freedom
I do not agree with this theory. It is written, in all four 'gospels', " heaven and earth will pass away, but My word will not pass away." I would not dare to call God a liar!
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