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Old 06-27-2008, 06:14 AM
 
Location: NW Arkansas
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I believe the following scripture may help answer this question :

Romans 13.1-3
1. Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those that do so will bring judgement against themselves.
3. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.

What I get from this can very well include defending our country, if our leaders find it necessary to go to war against an enemy to protect our country. As others have said, there are ways to serve other than in battle.
Personally, I hate war, but we would have become servants to our enemy a long time ago if there had not been wars. I am not saying I approve of all the wars our country has entered, or that the reason has been justified. God will judge that. If the leaders were wrong, they are the ones who will be judged, not the ones who had to do the fighting....espacially in the case where they are drafted into the war.
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Old 06-27-2008, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Albany, GA (Hell's Waiting Room)
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Originally Posted by Marianinark View Post
I believe the following scripture may help answer this question :

Romans 13.1-3
1. Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those that do so will bring judgement against themselves.
3. For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you.

What I get from this can very well include defending our country, if our leaders find it necessary to go to war against an enemy to protect our country. As others have said, there are ways to serve other than in battle.
Personally, I hate war, but we would have become servants to our enemy a long time ago if there had not been wars. I am not saying I approve of all the wars our country has entered, or that the reason has been justified. God will judge that. If the leaders were wrong, they are the ones who will be judged, not the ones who had to do the fighting....espacially in the case where they are drafted into the war.
I think it's safe to say that only an idiot LOVES war. Even people in the military don't get all squooged up with glee to think they might be facing death or dismemberment at the hands of an enemy, or that they might be inflicting those things on others. War is sometimes simply the least horrible of several possibilities.
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:41 AM
 
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See my text about early Christian pacifism: http://www.christarchy.com/profiles/blogs/early-christian-pacifism-andThere (broken link) I qoute 11 pacifistic church fathers from the first four centuries, and I also explain why Rom 13 and the wars in tho OT don't abolish Christian pacifism.
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:42 AM
 
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That is, Early Christian Pacifism and Nonviolence - Christarchy! (http://www.christarchy.com/profiles/blogs/early-christian-pacifism-and - broken link)
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:45 AM
 
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There is no such thing as Christian pacifism.
One is either a pacifist or not.

BTW there also isn't any Christian violence, only violence committed by Christians.

good answer!

know another history than those records?

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