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#1 would probably the most important for most believers. My personal belief is that it is no more important than the other 2 I've listed.
#2 will be more controversial. Let me point out though that our English word 'logic' actually comes from the Greek word 'logos' which means "a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea". Yes, there is a 'natural' logic or reasoning which cannot comprehend the ways of God. Then there is a supernatural logic which has it's source IN God (as does the human race). AKA "the spirit of wisdom and revelation". Contrary to popular belief God CAN be understood.
#3 is just as important as the other two because it is implanted in us by God to enable us to relate to the first two AND to keep the first two in check. "What?!!" someone may say. "Keep the scriptures in check? How dare you!" Approximately 30,000 denominations later I will insist: Yes - to keep the scriptures in check.
After our last trinity 'go around' no one is coming anywhere near these trinity threads, even though this isn't really about that subject. Maybe I should change the title?
blessings,
- Byron
Last edited by firstborn888; 07-18-2008 at 11:39 PM..
Mythical discourse attempted to express the more elusive truths, and was not expected to conform too closely with objective realities in the external world. Logos however, had to be practical, effective, and accurate. On the battlefield and in councils of war, soldiers confronted questions of life and death. Instead of asking, ‘What is the ultimate meaning of this event?’ the men of logos asked, ‘What happened?’ and ‘What shall we do?’ Logos was driven by immediate, practical need, and it was vital that any soldier feel able to challenge the battle plan that would affect all alike, because the group needed all the expertise available.
Source: Karen Armstrong, The Great Transformations.
The Logos would never replace the Mythos of the poets. You could say that spirituality and religion are mainly mythos and that science is mostly logos. I bet that most people who believe themselves to be scientists will not believe me when I say that Logos was born in war. The trinity concept is not necessary for human survival, thus cannot be Logos and can only be Mythos of the poets.
The Logos would never replace the Mythos of the poets. You could say that spirituality and religion are mainly mythos and that science is mostly logos. I bet that most people who believe themselves to be scientists will not believe me when I say that Logos was born in war. The trinity concept is not necessary for human survival, thus cannot be Logos and can only be Mythos of the poets.
You make a great point here. However I would submit to you that there is a spiritual logos as well. Automatically there is an abstract quality to it as spirit cannot be seen physically or tested physically and that's why I am encouraging believers to put any scriptural interpretation through a rigorous test of spiritual (supernatural) logic and conscience.
Since the contents of the bible are largely symbolic it is impossible to come to an understanding of God by just reading and 'believing'. The words must be spiritually discerned.
Sadly, what many of my colleagues refer to as 'discernment' is the ability to turn ones logic and conscience off and simply say 'I believe!' no matter how absurd the literal or abstract conclusions may be. This is why I believe that bible literalism works against the kingdom of God.
Blessings,
- Byron
Last edited by firstborn888; 07-19-2008 at 01:14 AM..
You make a great point here. However I would submit to you that there is a spiritual logos as well. Automatically there is an abstract quality to it as spirit cannot be seen physically or tested physically and that's why I am encouraging believers to put any scriptural interpretation through a rigorous test of spiritual (supernatural) logic and conscience.
Since the contents of the bible are largely symbolic it is impossible to come to an understanding of God by just reading and 'believing'. The words must be spiritually discerned.
Sadly, what many of my colleagues refer to as 'discernment' is the ability to turn ones logic and conscience off and simply say 'I believe!' no matter how absurd the literal or abstract conclusions may be. This is why I believe that bible literalism works against the kingdom of God.
Then you will be delivered from the rabbit hole/trail and be fully immersed in the "One".
There is no "One"; everything is "One".
Quote:
Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. Neo: What truth? Spoon boy: There is no spoon. Neo: There is no spoon? Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.
The matrix
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I've noticed that....
, even though this isn't really about that subject. Maybe I should change the title?
The trinity concept is not necessary for human survival, thus cannot be Logos and can only be Mythos of the poets.
There is no "One"; everything is "One".
