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12-16-2008, 07:36 PM
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That is not biblical and i dont believe in that
There are too many cuckoos that say the spirit told them this or that.
Paul said if anyone comes preaching something DIFFERENT.
Paul was/is talking about DOCTRINE.
The bible also talks about when a person prophesies that there needs to be 2-3 witnesses.
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
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Originally Posted by HotinAZ
In the Berean sense, yes. But in matters of the spiritual, the only One to help discern what is meant by them, is the Spirit.
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12-16-2008, 07:36 PM
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Yep...that is what Peter said  |
Well, do you understand it. Paul would never say anything that went against Jesus, and if it so happens to "look" like he did, well then, it is only man's infallibility to correctly translate and discern what was meant by those letters. |
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12-16-2008, 07:38 PM
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Well, do you understand it. Paul would never say anything that went against Jesus, and if it so happens to "look" like he did, well then, it is only man's infallibility to correctly translate and discern what was meant by those letters.
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Sorry, I am afraid I am not getting your point... 
I get the feeling you are insulting me...but I am not sure???? |
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12-16-2008, 07:39 PM
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1. The Word of God is the one that is doing the judging. If i tell someone that they're living in adultery...it's not MY RULES that say a person is living in adultery....it's the WORD OF GOD
2. Pharisees we're NOT known for following the laws. They were known for making up new laws, and not even following their own laws.
I posted the verse already that says
a spiritual man judgeth ALL things.
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I don't have to JUDGE them to tell the fruits. I can SEE them. Which goes all the way back to my previous post.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
See, it doesn't work that way, otherwise all you have is a bunch of finger pointing, like the Pharisees of Jesus day. Traps, corrupt fruit, and the righteous mentality that wasn't of God, but of themselves.
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12-16-2008, 07:42 PM
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Like I wrote earlier...
There's a difference between JUDGING and CONDEMNING.
You need to read the whole chapter/book to see it's being used in context.
If a Pastor is living in adultery....
Are you telling us we can't judge him?
Are you tellling us that he can continue to live in adultery because we're not allowed to judge? 
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Originally Posted by HotinAZ
Well, do you understand it. Paul would never say anything that went against Jesus, and if it so happens to "look" like he did, well then, it is only man's infallibility to correctly translate and discern what was meant by those letters.
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12-16-2008, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by renriq02
That is not biblical and i dont believe in that
There are too many cuckoos that say the spirit told them this or that.
Paul said if anyone comes preaching something DIFFERENT.
Paul was/is talking about DOCTRINE.
The bible also talks about when a person prophesies that there needs to be 2-3 witnesses.
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
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That is not biblical and i dont believe in that
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What bible you read?
"But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers."
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you |
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12-16-2008, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by renriq02
Like I wrote earlier...
There's a difference between JUDGING and CONDEMNING.
You need to read the whole chapter/book to see it's being used in context.
If a Pastor is living in adultery....
Are you telling us we can't judge him?
Are you tellling us that he can continue to live in adultery because we're not allowed to judge? |
Only IF your robe is spotless before God. Is it?  |
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12-16-2008, 07:56 PM
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again it's talking about CONDEMNING not JUDGING lol 
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Only IF your robe is spotless before God. Is it? |
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12-16-2008, 07:57 PM
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What bible you read?
"But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers."
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you
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The last one looks like one of the John scriptures, where Jesus is speaking to the 12 ......  |
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12-16-2008, 08:06 PM
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anyways to answer the main question.
NO JW can't be seen as Christians.
They're doctrine is not sound
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