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Names in the Bible are not neutral. Adam means "red or earthly". Essau means "hairy". Jacob mean "supplanter". Moses means "drawn out". Jesus' Hebrew name is Joshua, meaniing "he will save his people from their sins". Animals have the same principle, and Adam named them before the fall.
Lion in Hebrew means "violent". Hawk means "tearing" in Hebrew. These meanings show that Adam observed their natural order of operation in which he, and we, are very familiar with. At no time, did Adam experience different physical world than ours we have today. Adam, called his helper, woman, meaning "taken out of man". If this pre-fall name was descriptive, then we have no reason to doubt that the other names of everything else Adam gave them before the fall, as he was instructed, as we have them in Hebrew, passed down from him onto Moses.
Gen 13:10 compares the physical condition of the garden of Eden to the Jordan Valley.
Job 39:13 demonstrates that biological death existed before the fall in the ostrich.
...for God did not endow her with the wisdom or give her a sare of good sense.
Names in the Bible are not neutral. Adam means "red or earthly". Essau means "hairy". Jacob mean "supplanter". Moses means "drawn out". Jesus' Hebrew name is Joshua, meaniing "he will save his people from their sins". Animals have the same principle, and Adam named them before the fall.
Lion in Hebrew means "violent". Hawk means "tearing" in Hebrew. These meanings show that Adam observed their natural order of operation in which he, and we, are very familiar with. At no time, did Adam experience different physical world than ours we have today. Adam, called his helper, woman, meaning "taken out of man". If this pre-fall name was descriptive, then we have no reason to doubt that the other names of everything else Adam gave them before the fall, as he was instructed, as we have them in Hebrew, passed down from him onto Moses.
Gen 13:10 compares the physical condition of the garden of Eden to the Jordan Valley.
Job 39:13 demonstrates that biological death existed before the fall in the ostrich.
...for God did not endow her with the wisdom or give her a sare of good sense.
I can elborate further.
Death entered the world through sin.
The earth was in it's perfected state pre fall, the earth did change, God walked the earth pre fall.
Gen 13:10 compares the physical condition of the garden of Eden to the Jordan Valley.
Job 39:13 demonstrates that biological death existed before the fall in the ostrich.
...for God did not endow her with the wisdom or give her a sare of good sense.
I can elborate further.
Please expound? and if the death was present before the fall why would God call the creation very good? and what reason would God allow death and suffering in the world if not for the fall?
Job 39:13 demonstrates that biological death existed before the fall in the ostrich.
...for God did not endow her with the wisdom or give her a sare of good sense.
I can elborate further.
Job 39:11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? 12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn? 13Gavest thou the goodly wings unto the peacocks? or wings and feathers unto the ostrich? 14Which leaveth her eggs in the earth, and warmeth them in dust, 15And forgetteth that the foot may crush them, or that the wild beast may break them.
I do not see any demonstration of biological death before the fall so yeah, you are going to have to demonstrate and elaborate on that more.
Also, do keep in mind that conditions stated now were not the same before the flood.
Herbs were meat for all living things. That means there were no predators before the flood.
Genesis 1: 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Genesis 8: 1And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
So after the fall was death in the world where accidents like someone stepping on the eggs would happen.
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