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Old 06-30-2014, 03:17 PM
 
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The bible is wrong in umpteen ways. The condemnation of homosexuality is just one.

Would you use a 2,000+ year-old map to get from your house to Auckland New Zealand?

How about a 2000+ year-old medical book to treat cancer?

I didn't think so.

But somehow, some people think a 2000+ year-old collection of stories is a current guide of how to live.

Ridiculous.
If the map was created by God, then why wouldn't I? False equivalency.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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If the map was created by God, then why wouldn't I? False equivalency.
I don't believe God had much, if anything, to do with the compilation of books comprising the bible.

But I understand the need of certain people to believe otherwise.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:20 PM
 
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I don't believe God had much, if anything, to do with the compilation of books comprising the bible.

But I understand the need of certain people to believe otherwise.
Whether you believe is irrelevant to your argument from chronology. I wouldn't follow any book written by men 2,000 years ago, unless it was inspired by God, which the Bible is.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:21 PM
 
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The bible is wrong in umpteen ways. The condemnation of homosexuality is just one.

Would you use a 2,000+ year-old map to get from your house to Auckland New Zealand?

How about a 2000+ year-old medical book to treat cancer?

I didn't think so.

But somehow, some people think a 2000+ year-old collection of stories is a current guide of how to live.

Ridiculous.
He that says "There is no GOD is a fool" - Psalms 14:1

And by you claiming the Bible is wrong, you are saying GOD is wrong, thus no belief in him or his word.

And Christopher Columbus used the Bible (1,422 years old at the time) to find his way over to the New World aka America...Reading the book of Esdras...in which he STILL got lost and landed in Puerto Rico instead...lol

Are we not still using the Law of Gravity after all these years of discovering it? of course...why?

Because knowledge knows no timeline.

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Old 06-30-2014, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Whether you believe is irrelevant to your argument from chronology. I wouldn't follow any book written by men 2,000 years ago, unless it was inspired by God, which the Bible is.
Uh-huh.

Yeah, sure.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:28 PM
 
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Whether you believe is irrelevant to your argument from chronology. I wouldn't follow any book written by men 2,000 years ago, unless it was inspired by God, which the Bible is.
You have ignored my questions. Have you studied any of the extant Bible scholarship about the origin of the Bible canon? I cannot believe that anyone who has studied could actually believe what you do about it.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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Whether you believe is irrelevant to your argument from chronology. I wouldn't follow any book written by men 2,000 years ago, unless it was inspired by God, which the Bible is.
Key word there is "inspired". My church doesn't beliebe in Biblical inerrancy.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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He that says "There is no GOD is a fool" - Psalms 14:1

And by you claiming the Bible is wrong, you are saying GOD is wrong, thus no belief in him or his word.

And Christopher Columbus used the Bible (1,422 years old at the time) to find his way over to the New World aka America...Reading the book of Esdras...in which he STILL got lost and landed in Puerto Rico instead...lol

Are we not still using the Law of Gravity after all these years of discovering it? of course...why?

Because knowledge knows no timeline.
I believe in a God/Creator.

I believe the bible is man-made book describing a man-conceived god who is not in any way, shape or form, real.

So sue me.
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Old 06-30-2014, 03:31 PM
 
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Key word there is "inspired". My church doesn't beliebe in Biblical inerrancy.
Does your "church" believe in the Bible at all?
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Old 07-01-2014, 05:12 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Does your "church" believe in the Bible at all?
If denverian's church has any healthy spiritual sense it understands the Bible to be a compilation of individual writings separated by scores of years, written by flawed men to express THEIR own understanding of faith to OTHER flawed men.

Doesn't mean the Bible is no good, but it does mean it's not good enough to be taken as literally as many foolish religionists do. Not even you take it as literally as you think you do---otherwise you would be demanding we burn or drown the growing number of Wiccan witches in this country because, "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live among you."

Or maybe you DO advocate that?

Nope I don't hate homosexuals either or want to keep them out of churches filled with gluttons and divorced and remarried folks, the latter group comprising 50% of the nation having done irreparable damage to traditional family "values," while many of them blame it on the five or six percent of homosexuals in this country. Those practicing homosexuals are in as much need of God as we practicing gluttons and adulterers. Heard a lot of sermons against gluttony and divorce/remarriage have you? No, because those sins are far more prevalent than homosexuality. No preacher or priest is going to incur the unrighteous indignation of his sinning congregation by informing them that they are living in sin before almighty God.

I'm happy to live in a city with denverian, where I know at least one other practicing Christian has a heart---and a brain, too.
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