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Old 04-22-2009, 11:14 AM
 
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Huh?!? Fundie. You're creating your own definitions out of thin air to serve your agenda. You're trying to insinuate that people who are not chained to a specific ideology are just wafting in the breeze for whatever ideas might drift by.

The reason educated people tend to not be religious extremists is because they are exposed to various perspectives on an issue and deduce a conclusion from such analysis.

Open-mindedness is not simply accepting every idea as true. It's being open to consider every idea. Yes. Let it in, assess it, and either push it out of keep it in.
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:18 AM
 
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Huh?!? Fundie. You're creating your own definitions out of thin air to serve your agenda. You're trying to insinuate that people who are not chained to a specific ideology are just wafting in the breeze for whatever ideas might drift by.

The reason educated people tend to not be religious extremists is because they are exposed to various perspectives on an issue and deduce a conclusion from such analysis.

Open-mindedness is not simply accepting every idea as true. It's being open to consider every idea. Yes. Let it in, assess it, and either push it out of keep it in.
I am doing no such thing. It is the world who has changed meaning of words to suit the society we live in and as a Christian I follow the word of God. I am not saying anything but that having an open mind needs no discernment if you are going to let it in anyway. If you have an open door anything can walk in, fly in or crawl in. Using discernment is opening and closing a door

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Old 04-22-2009, 11:43 AM
 
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No man knows the mind of God, right? God's words are a guide, but words are filtered through the imperfect prism of our understanding. I see no contradiction in being a Christain and using reason to fearlessly investigate everything and to entertain all logical possibilities.
True. If I had closed my mind when I first became a Christian I would still be a babe. One needs to have an open mind to grow, to allow God to teach and show you things. The church leaders had a closed mind when they saw Christ healing the sick on the sabbath. Peter had a closed mind thinking Christ should not suffer and be killed. The brother of the prodigal son had a closed mind in regards to his brother coming home. The disciples were closed minded regarding children approaching and 'bothering' Jesus. Martha had a closed mind when she fussed at Jesus for being 4 days late to heal Lazarus. Jesus corrected each of these folk's thinking, he opened their minds to something they could not see or understand. His words to Peter fit each circumstance and still apply today, "You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Until I fully understand the mind of God (which won't happen in this life on Earth) I had better keep an open mind lest I be subject to the same words.
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:48 AM
 
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True. If I had closed my mind when I first became a Christian I would still be a babe. One needs to have an open mind to grow, to allow God to teach and show you things. The church leaders had a closed mind when they saw Christ healing the sick on the sabbath. Peter had a closed mind thinking Christ should not suffer and be killed. The brother of the prodigal son had a closed mind in regards to his brother coming home. The disciples were closed minded regarding children approaching and 'bothering' Jesus. Martha had a closed mind when she fussed at Jesus for being 4 days late to heal Lazarus. Jesus corrected each of these folk's thinking, he opened their minds to something they could not see or understand. His words to Peter fit each circumstance and still apply today, "You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

Until I fully understand the mind of God (which won't happen in this life on Earth) I had better keep an open mind lest I be subject to the same words.

The prodigal son story is a parable and it has nothing to support your theory. Both were sinners

The bible?
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:55 AM
 
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I hope my mind is open to God's truth, but closed to all the error in the world. By knowing the truth, we can recognize error. If we do not know the truth, we can absorb all types of error.
I like to live by the scripture that speaks of searching the scriptures daily to see if these things are so.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:05 PM
 
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The prodigal son story is a parable and it has nothing to support your theory. Both were sinners

The bible?
I'm not sure why parables don't count as teaching/learning moments, that is why Christ used them after all, but OK. What about the other examples?
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:10 PM
 
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I'm not sure why parables don't count as teaching/learning moments, that is why Christ used them after all, but OK. What about the other examples?
Because you can't smash theology into a view without the proper context.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:18 PM
 
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True. If I had closed my mind when I first became a Christian I would still be a babe. One needs to have an open mind to grow, to allow God to teach and show you things. The church leaders had a closed mind when they saw Christ healing the sick on the sabbath. Peter had a closed mind thinking Christ should not suffer and be killed. The brother of the prodigal son had a closed mind in regards to his brother coming home. The disciples were closed minded regarding children approaching and 'bothering' Jesus. Martha had a closed mind when she fussed at Jesus for being 4 days late to heal Lazarus. Jesus corrected each of these folk's thinking, he opened their minds to something they could not see or understand. His words to Peter fit each circumstance and still apply today, "You do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
You made some good points. I believe that it depends on what our minds are closed or open to. The elder son had a closed mind and did not see what the most important thing was, to have the brother reconciled to the his father. His focus was elsewhere. God bless.
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:19 PM
 
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You made some good points. I believe that it depends on what our minds are closed or open to. The elder son had a closed mind and did not see what the most important thing was, to have the brother reconciled to the his father. His focus was elsewhere. God bless.
exactly!
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Old 04-22-2009, 12:22 PM
 
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I hope my mind is open to God's truth, but closed to all the error in the world. By knowing the truth, we can recognize error. If we do not know the truth, we can absorb all types of error.
I like to live by the scripture that speaks of searching the scriptures daily to see if these things are so.
Yes Towhee you looked through the peep hole, like what you saw and opened the door. I totally agree!!
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