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There is no point in following Christ because all will have eternal life.
Think about it this way, carolina_guy. If a doctor discovers a cure for an illness or disease and if he begins to share this cure so that others are healed, is there no sense in him sharing this cure, since eventually all will be cured of the disease anyway? God bless.
Fundy, that has already answered other threads. Please review. But how about answering my question on the previous discussion? Thanks and God bless you.
Then if it is, yes. You are no different from them, just a different philosophy-a different road but the SAME OUTCOME, RESULT, DESTINATION NONETHELESS
Evidently many do care, carolina_guy and proclaim the victory of God over sin and death in the creation. And we don't want to confuse Unitarian universalism with Christian Universalism, which some tend to do.
Wow, do you really believe that? Hmmmm....Take care and God bless.
No, I don't believe that, this is the essence of what you teach.
There is no point in following Christ because all will have eternal life.
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No, I don't believe that, this is the essence of what you teach.
No, it isn't carolina_guy. We have never stated this or believe this. We have never said that there is no point in following Christ, because all will have eternal life or suggested this. If you can show me where this has been said or suggested, please show me. Thanks and God bless
Then if it is, yes. You are no different from them, just a different philosophy-a different road but the SAME OUTCOME, RESULT, DESTINATION NONETHELESS
The scriptures teach that it was God's good pleasure to reconcile all to Himself. It isn't a philosophy or a different road but the teaching in the scripture. (Colossians 1) It is that all of creation is to be delivered and changed into the glorious freedom of the children of God. (Romans 8) Will athiests remain athiests? How can they when every knee will bow before Him and when every tongue will proclaim Him and give thanks to Him? Do you believe that Jesus is to fill all things? God bless.
No, it isn't carolina_guy. We have never stated this or believe this. We have never said that there is no point in following Christ, because all will have eternal life or suggested this. If you can show me where this has been said or suggested, please show me. Thanks and God bless
What you have said is that all will have eternal life. All get to heaven no matter what path they followed here on earth. You have said it is good for us to choose Christ now, but if one does not, they will be reconciled back to God after the lake of fire. In the end, all of creation, believers and unbelievers, will be in the presence of God and have eternal life apart from hell.
I love "Guilt by Association" tactics. I am a believer who believes Christ died for all mankind and in fact ransomed all mankind and based upon that, "God will save all mankind" (1 Timothy 2:4-6). But this does not make me a Universalist/Unitarian. I'm not. I don't even consider myself a "Universalist." I'm a believer.
Why not kill, maim and steal since most are going to hell anyway. Heck, even Christians drown their own babies in bathwater, they also drive their cars into lakes to drown their children, they poison their congregations with kool-aid etc. At least Universalists are not guilty of that.
What you have said is that all will have eternal life. All get to heaven no matter what path they followed here on earth. You have said it is good for us to choose Christ now, but if one does not, they will be reconciled back to God after the lake of fire. In the end, all of creation, believers and unbelievers, will be in the presence of God and have eternal life apart from hell.
Is this not true of your belief?
I have shared that the scriptures teach that believers have aionios life in this age and in the age to come. Believers are the people, children of God and live our lives for the One who died for us. There is to be a change. God is transforming us into His image today. The belief in the eventual restoration of all to God, does not mean that there is no point in following Jesus today. We are to turn away from sin, put the old man to death daily with the Spirit of God, live for Jesus. Believers are the first fruits of God's harvest and will rule and reign with Christ. Our works will be judged so what we do today does matter.
The scriptures teach that it was God's good pleasure to reconcile all to Himself. I did not say this, the apostle Paul did. (Colossians 1) and Jesus has said that the ruler of this world has been cast out and that if He was lifted up from the earth, He would draw all men to Himself.Jesus has said this, not me, carolina_guy. If Jesus said this, I believe this. Jesus was was sent by the Father on a mission to be the Savior of the word and God has already stated in His word, that He accomplishes His good pleasure. These are not my words. Many will experience loss, death, destruction and the judgments of God are for a higher purpose if it is God's good pleasure to reconcile all to Himself. God bless.
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What you have said is that all will have eternal life. All get to heaven no matter what path they followed here on earth. You have said it is good for us to choose Christ now, but if one does not, they will be reconciled back to God after the lake of fire. In the end, all of creation, believers and unbelievers, will be in the presence of God and have eternal life apart from hell.
Is this not true of your belief?
I desperately want to believe this as well, but sadly i feel there will be those who's blasphemous religion got the best of them, and they will just cease to exist. In particular, those who spoke on behalf of the King, wrongly, and will be just expelled.
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And we don't want to confuse Unitarian universalism with Christian Universalism, which some tend to do. 
