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Old 09-19-2015, 08:25 PM
 
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I am very cautious about any sort of evangelical Christian church. But I heard an interview with Nadia Bolz Weber who is an Evangelical Lutheran minister.

Her church sounds pretty cool. Not like the usual contemporary style church with conservative values and fundamentalist beliefs. I've always thought that some of these more contemporary churches had good things to offer with their support groups, etc. But I cannot get past their values, or their beliefs on many issues. This one may be very different.

Does anyone know anything about this denomination? Is this type of church typical? (Interview link below)

Lutheran Minister Preaches A Gospel Of Love To Junkies, Drag Queens And Outsiders : NPR
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Old 09-19-2015, 10:39 PM
 
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You might PM Freak80 as I think he grew up in a conservative Lutheran atmosphere. He doesn't speak too highly of it.

Personally, I don't know much about them--but they can't be any worse than Baptists (pick any sect of them you wish! )
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Old 09-20-2015, 02:33 AM
 
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I am very cautious about any sort of evangelical Christian church. But I heard an interview with Nadia Bolz Weber who is an Evangelical Lutheran minister.

Her church sounds pretty cool. Not like the usual contemporary style church with conservative values and fundamentalist beliefs. I've always thought that some of these more contemporary churches had good things to offer with their support groups, etc. But I cannot get past their values, or their beliefs on many issues. This one may be very different.

Does anyone know anything about this denomination? Is this type of church typical? (Interview link below)

Lutheran Minister Preaches A Gospel Of Love To Junkies, Drag Queens And Outsiders : NPR
Didn't read the article, shall in a minute. Evangelical Lutheran is know as being very accepting and liberal.
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Old 09-20-2015, 05:19 AM
 
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Nadia Bolz Weber is an ordained pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), is a mainline Protestant denomination headquartered in Chicago. The ELCA came into being on January 1, 1988, with the merger of:

* The American Lutheran Church
* The Lutheran Church in America, &
* The Association of Evangelical Lutheran Churches

The ELCA is the largest national Lutheran Church in the USA, with nearly four million baptized members. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evange...rch_in_America
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:38 AM
 
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You might PM Freak80 as I think he grew up in a conservative Lutheran atmosphere. He doesn't speak too highly of it.

Personally, I don't know much about them--but they can't be any worse than Baptists (pick any sect of them you wish! )
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Nadia Bolz Weber is an ordained pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), is a mainline Protestant denomination headquartered in Chicago. The ELCA came into being on January 1, 1988, with the merger of:

* The American Lutheran Church
* The Lutheran Church in America, &
* The Association of Evangelical Lutheran Churches

The ELCA is the largest national Lutheran Church in the USA, with nearly four million baptized members. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evange...rch_in_America
Right. The ELCA is markedly different than the LCMS, in which Freak (and I) were raised. The ELCA does not have the same conservative/fundamentalist mindset.
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Old 09-20-2015, 07:47 AM
 
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From the article:
I don't monitor people's behavior, let's put it that way. So much of Christianity has become about monitoring behavior, and so far it has just failed to work as a strategy for making people better. For instance, we're in the middle of this Ashley Madison scandal with all of these clergy, so on some level Christianity became about monitoring people's behavior, like a sin-management program, and that almost always fails and often backfires. I would actually argue that conservative Christianity's obsession with controlling sexuality — I mean absolute obsession with it — has in fact created more unhealthy sexual behavior than it has ever prevented. I really believe that.

Boy, she's spot on.
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Old 09-20-2015, 11:48 AM
 
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Thanks for all the info. It sounds like a really cool church. I'm just confused by the name. They call themselves both "evangelical" and "mainline" which seems like a contradiction.
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Old 09-20-2015, 12:01 PM
 
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Thanks for all the info. It sounds like a really cool church. I'm just confused by the name. They call themselves both "evangelical" and "mainline" which seems like a contradiction.
While it's true that the more conservative Lutheran denominations do have things in common with the "born again" fundamentalist evangelicals, in Lutheran circles "evangelical" means something different. It is more like "gospel-centered". Which is what the pastor in your article emphasized repeatedly.

Here's a little blurb: Why are we called “Evangelical” | Zion Lutheran Church, Stratford
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Old 09-20-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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Neither the LCMS nor the WELS will ordain female pastors, so the church is definitely not affiliated with either of those denominations.
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Old 09-20-2015, 03:44 PM
 
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I am very cautious about any sort of evangelical Christian church. But I heard an interview with Nadia Bolz Weber who is an Evangelical Lutheran minister.

Her church sounds pretty cool. Not like the usual contemporary style church with conservative values and fundamentalist beliefs. I've always thought that some of these more contemporary churches had good things to offer with their support groups, etc. But I cannot get past their values, or their beliefs on many issues. This one may be very different.

Does anyone know anything about this denomination? Is this type of church typical? (Interview link below)

Lutheran Minister Preaches A Gospel Of Love To Junkies, Drag Queens And Outsiders : NPR
It's just another liberal church that claims to follow the Bible but does their own thing. Martin Luther would be spinning in his grave if he knew they claimed to be Lutheran. They really are not Lutheran in anything but name only.
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